What are ways in which a multimeter can "break"?

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The discussion revolves around the potential failure modes of digital multimeters, particularly in relation to their voltage and current specifications. Participants explore the implications of exceeding these specifications and the protective features, such as fuses, that are designed to prevent damage.

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  • Some participants express concern about the consequences of measuring voltages beyond the rated maximum, specifically questioning what happens if a multimeter rated for 750V is used to measure 1000V.
  • There is mention of "burning" as a potential outcome when exceeding voltage limits, with some suggesting that fuses are intended to protect the meter by blowing before damage occurs.
  • One participant critiques the practicality of high voltage and current ranges on multimeters, suggesting that they may be included for marketing purposes rather than actual utility.
  • Another participant highlights the risks associated with high energy sources and the limitations of fuses in protecting the meter from damage, emphasizing that safety specs are primarily for user protection.
  • There are differing views on the safety and functionality of multimeters with high voltage and current ratings, with some asserting that quality meters can handle such conditions while others remain skeptical.
  • A participant warns against measuring high voltages without understanding the meter's limits, suggesting that setting the range appropriately is crucial to avoid damage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reliability and safety of using multimeters at their maximum ratings. Multiple competing views exist regarding the effectiveness of protective features and the practicality of high voltage/current measurements.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the specifications may not fully account for real-world usage scenarios, and there are unresolved questions about the actual protective capabilities of the multimeter designs discussed.

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The digital multimeter I have says

"Overload protection: F 250mA/250V Fused
(10A range unfused)
Max. Input Current: 10A
(For inputs >2A: measurement duration<10 secs,
interval > 15 minutes)"

It also says in the manual that the 10A jack is not fused

So what I am wondering is since the max AC input is 750V what happen if I try to read a voltage of 1000V. Also what does the 'fuse' do, 2 jacks are fused except for 1...
 
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Inventor man said:
So what I am wondering is since the max AC input is 750V what happen if I try to read a voltage of 1000V.
Have you ever heard of "burning"? :wink:

Inventor man said:
Also what does the 'fuse' do, 2 jacks are fused except for 1...
If you're using the fused jack, hopefully the fuse will burn first, leaving the rest of the multimeter intact, such that you only have to put in a new fuse to have it working again.
 
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Inventor man said:
"Overload protection: F 250mA/250V Fused
(10A range unfused)
Max. Input Current: 10A
(For inputs >2A: measurement duration<10 secs,
interval > 15 minutes)"
It also says in the manual that the 10A jack is not fused

I would translate a spec like that as "the marketing department told the designers to include 10A and 1000V input ranges because they look cool in the advertising, but they aren't actually useful for anything much in real life."

If you exceed the maximum ratings and get lucky, some sort of "out of range" indicator will show on the display. If you don't get lucky, there will probably be some combination of blown fuses, sparks, bangs, smoke, flames, a permanently destroyed meter, and/or the user recovering from an electric shock.
 
AlephZero said:
I would translate a spec like that as "the marketing department told the designers to include 10A and 1000V input ranges because they look cool in the advertising, but they aren't actually useful for anything much in real life."

If you exceed the maximum ratings and get lucky, some sort of "out of range" indicator will show on the display. If you don't get lucky, there will probably be some combination of blown fuses, sparks, bangs, smoke, flames, a permanently destroyed meter, and/or the user recovering from an electric shock.

LOL! So you think no one ever measures current over an amp or so. Any time you have much over an Amp you need the 10A range. I use it often.

I suspect that 1000V on a normal meter would let the smoke out. Experiment at the risk of your meter.
 
The idea that a meter has protection on the low current and voltage ranges but not on the high ranges seems bizarre - a bit like wearing a parachute while planning a flight but taking it off when you get in the plane.

Of course there are handheld digital meters that can measure 1000V and 10A safely, e.g. http://www.test-meter.co.uk/images/file/AVO410.pdf, but serious measurement tools don't have restrictions like "measurement duration 10 sec, interval between measurements > 15 minutes".

You can get high voltage and current probes to measure up to 400,000V or 1000A with a "standard" meter, if you need that capability.
 
AlephZero said:
The idea that a meter has protection on the low current and voltage ranges but not on the high ranges seems bizarre - a bit like wearing a parachute while planning a flight but taking it off when you get in the plane.

It's pretty hard to protect a small wattage 0.1 ohm shunt resistor in a hand-held meter from a high energy source with a fuse when the fuse resistance is in the same range and increases the measurement burden voltage. The meters safety specs are mainly for human protection and don't protect the meter from abuse. It won't blowup in your face from a high energy source if it's a quality meter but there's no guarantee it will still work. I ran the electronic measurement calibration dept at work for years and it never ceased to amaze me the creativity a tech could use to smoke an expensive meter.

NSFW language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewyf9mzIfi0
 
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Inventor man said:
So what I am wondering is since the max AC input is 750V what happen if I try to read a voltage of 1000V.

Dont. High voltages are dangerous. The insulation on this meter may only have been designed to protect you from 750v. The meter may or may not be damaged as well.

Before measuring anything you should have some idea what the maximum is likely to be and set the range accordingly. Setting it too high is unlikely to cause damage. Setting it too low might well cause damage. You can always turn the range down if you set it too high.
 

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