What Constitutes Circular Motion in Classical Dynamics?

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The discussion revolves around a Classical Dynamics problem related to circular motion and Hamilton's equations. The original poster is trying to understand what constitutes circular motion in the context of the given equations and the relationship between variables.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the requirements for demonstrating circular motion, questioning the implications of the relationship between radius and position variables. Other participants explore the connection between simple harmonic motion (SHM) and circular motion, while also discussing the mathematical forms of the equations involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the mathematical relationships. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the equations and the need for further exploration of the implications of the relationships between variables.

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There is uncertainty regarding the definitions and implications of circular motion as it relates to the variables in the equations, particularly how the radius depends on both position variables. The original poster expresses confusion about the requirements of the problem and the nature of the motion being analyzed.

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Hi, I'm doing this Classical Dynamics section II question which can be found here (http://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/undergrad/pastpapers/2008/Part_2/list_II.pdf ) on page 27.

I have done most of the question but am unsure about the last part. Specifically using Hamilton's equations to show there's circular motion of radius r with the angular frequency given. I am basically just unsure of what you actually have to show, I mean they've already told us that r^2=x_1^2+x_2^2 so what actually constitutes circular motion? I can show from Hamilton's equations that

\stackrel{..}{x_i}=(p_3-\frac{eF}{c})\frac{e}{m^{2}cr}\frac{dF}{dr}x_i


for i=1,2 getting someway towards the expression for the angular frequency but don't really know where to go from here seeing as r depends on BOTH x_1 and x_2 so that differential equation isn't of SHM form!
 
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I'm still stuck on this, I know that two SHM systems acting perpendicular to each other produce circular motion but that's not what we have in this case (or is it?) since the r depends on the x_i!
 
We have

<br /> x_i&#039;&#039;=-\Omega^2(r) \; x_i<br />

Making a square and adding

<br /> x_1&#039;&#039;^2+x_2&#039;&#039;^2=\Omega^4(r) \; (x^2_1+x^2_2)=\Omega^4(r) \; r^2.<br />

RHS depends only on r, it follows and LHS too

<br /> a^2(r)=\Omega^4(r) \; r^2.<br />

And we get

<br /> a(r)=-\Omega^2(r) \; r.<br />
 
I see what you've done, thanks.
 

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