What determines the maximum acceleration of a ball in empty space?

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The discussion revolves around the factors that determine the maximum acceleration of a ball in empty space, particularly focusing on the conditions under which acceleration ceases and uniform motion begins. Participants explore concepts related to force, mass, and external influences on motion, with a mix of theoretical and practical considerations.

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  • One participant questions what determines the stopping point of acceleration, suggesting factors like force, shape, mass, or other influences.
  • Several participants reference Newton's second law (F=ma) to explain the relationship between force and acceleration.
  • There is a discussion about how acceleration ceases when there is no net force acting on the object, with analogies drawn to everyday experiences like driving a car.
  • One participant raises the idea that the ball's acceleration might increase after being thrown, questioning whether the absence of friction in space plays a role.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the initial claim of increasing speed after the ball leaves the hand, suggesting that an external force must be acting on it.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of the speed data provided by the original poster, indicating potential misunderstandings of the principles involved.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the original poster's claims regarding acceleration and speed. There are competing views about the forces at play and the validity of the speed measurements, indicating ongoing uncertainty and debate.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight potential errors in the original poster's speed data or understanding of the physics involved. The discussion reflects a lack of clarity regarding the conditions under which the ball accelerates and the forces acting on it.

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A ball is pushed in empty space away from gravitation/curvature.

It attains a speed of 1m/s, then 2m/s, then 3m/s, then 4m/s, then 5m/s and then it continues to move at a constant velocity of 5.1m/s till infinity.

My question is what things decide that the acceleration would stop at 5.1m/s?

a) force given to ball
b) shape of the ball
c) mass of the ball
d) something else also
 
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You should know that "force equals mass times acceleration". That's all you need.
 
HallsofIvy said:
You should know that "force equals mass times acceleration". That's all you need.

why should acceleration stop at all and uniform motion continue after that?

How does 'acceleration' know when to stop?
 
Naveen3456 said:
How does 'acceleration' know when to stop?

When there is no net force acting on the object.
 
F=ma when there are a force there is an acceleration. When there's no force, object will move in a constant velocity
 
How does 'acceleration' know when to stop?
In your example, when you let go and stop pushing it.
 
How does 'acceleration' know when to stop?

Very similar to taking your foot off the accelerator in a car...stop applying power, that is, stop apply a net net force, and the acceleration ceases.

A slightly different perspective applies to uniform circular motion: An object moving in a circular motion...say a ball being swung on a string... is accelerating due to the change of direction of motion. Remove the force by letting go of the string...'acceleration' ceases as the force from the string is removed.
 
Naty1 said:
Very similar to taking your foot off the accelerator in a car...stop applying power, that is, stop apply a net net force, and the acceleration ceases.

A slightly different perspective applies to uniform circular motion: An object moving in a circular motion...say a ball being swung on a string... is accelerating due to the change of direction of motion. Remove the force by letting go of the string...'acceleration' ceases as the force from the string is removed.

But, here the acceleration seems to increase once the ball leaves my hand. Once I throw the ball, it attains a speed of 1m/s, then 2m/s and finally attains a constant speed/velocity of 5.1m/s. Is it because there are no frictional forces in space?
 
Once I throw the ball, it attains a speed of 1m/s, then 2m/s and finally attains a constant speed/velocity of 5.1m/s.

I doubt it. Please provide more details of that experiment and how the velocity was measured.

Normally the only way a ball can accelerate (eg get faster) after it's left your hand is if something else acts on it (eg gravity or an elastic band or ??)
 
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Acceleration has stopped at 5.1ms-1
 
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The acceleration of the ball due to initially applied force.(F=ma). when this force completely converted into acceleration at 5.1m/s . after F=0 and a=0. so velocity is constant due to zero acceleration.
 
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I think we can forget about this question. The OP hasn't been back to provide the information requested.

The OP appears to be saying the ball is "in empty space away from gravitation" yet "acceleration seems to increase once the ball leaves my hand".

There is either an error with the speed data or another force (not gravity) must be accelerating the ball after it leaves the hand.
 
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There is either an error with the speed data or another force (not gravity) must be accelerating the ball after it leaves the hand.

or he just doesn't understand the rules/formula as explained to him in the earlier posts

Dave
 

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