What does it mean to say a battery is however many volts?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of voltage and its relation to electric potential energy. The formula V = Kq/r is used to calculate the voltage at a point 1 meter from a 1 nC charge, which is 9 volts or 9 J/C. This means that 9 joules of work is required to move a 1C charge from the negative terminal to the positive terminal of a battery with a potential difference of 9V. The conversation also touches on the role of potential energy in circuits and compares voltage to height in an analogy.
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For instance, at a point 1 meter from a 1 nC charge the voltage (potential difference) from the formula V = Kq/r, is given as 9 volts, 9 J/C.

So what does it then mean to call a battery 9V, 9 J/C? Is this a battery capable of taking a 1 C charge from infinity and pushing to within 1m of a 1 nC source of some electric field?
 
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It means that if you move a 1C charge from the negative terminal to the positive terminal, its potential energy increases by 9J. The battery already defines the potential difference of 9V between its positive and negative terminals, so we don't use the point at infinity as the zero potential reference.
 
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Chandra Prayaga said:
It means that if you move a 1C charge from the negative terminal to the positive terminal, its potential energy increases by 9J. The battery already defines the potential difference of 9V between its positive and negative terminals, so we don't use the point at infinity as the zero potential reference.

And so a circuit that connects those terminals is a pathway across which a charge could gain PE by moving from the negative terminal to the positive terminal? And if that circuit is more than just a (theoretically) resistance-less why, then as that charge is picking up PE, some of that PE will be doing work in the circuit before it reaches the other terminal?
 
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Chandra Prayaga said:
It means that if you move a 1C charge from the negative terminal to the positive terminal, its potential energy increases by 9J. The battery already defines the potential difference of 9V between its positive and negative terminals, so we don't use the point at infinity as the zero potential reference.

So could we think of voltage as 'height'?
 
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kostoglotov said:
And so a circuit that connects those terminals is a pathway across which a charge could gain PE by moving from the negative terminal to the positive terminal?
A [positive] charge will not spontaneously move from negative terminal to positive terminal. It takes work to move it in that direction. Its gain in PE corresponds to the external work that must be supplied to get it to move.

And if that circuit is more than just a (theoretically) resistance-less why, then as that charge is picking up PE, some of that PE will be doing work in the circuit before it reaches the other terminal?
The PE that is gained by a charge does not do work as it is gained. It is the other way around. You must do work on the charge to get it to gain PE.

As a [positive] charge is released from the positive terminal and allowed to flow to the negative terminal, its potential energy is released. The PE that it loses is a source of work or heat in the circuit.

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So could we think of voltage as 'height'?
Yes. That analogy works.
 
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So when Chandra Prayaga said above

"It means that if you move a 1C charge from the negative terminal to the positive terminal, its potential energy increases by 9J."

They were describing something more akin to a battery being charged than a battery being used?
 
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kostoglotov said:
So when Chandra Prayaga said above

"It means that if you move a 1C charge from the negative terminal to the positive terminal, its potential energy increases by 9J."

They were describing something more akin to a battery being charged than a battery being used?
Yes.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
Yes.
Thanks, jbriggs444. Yes. The electric potential energy increases by 9J. That energy needs to be provided by the hand or whatever moves the positive charge. In the motion of any charge q from point A to point B, any number of forces could be acting on the charge, but the change in electric potential energy is UB - UA = q(VB - VA), where V stands for electric potential and U stands for electric potential energy.
 

1. What exactly is a volt?

A volt is a unit of measurement for electrical potential difference, also known as voltage. It is equivalent to one joule per coulomb of electric charge.

2. How is voltage measured in a battery?

Voltage is typically measured using a voltmeter, which is a device that measures the difference in electrical potential between two points in a circuit. In the case of a battery, the voltmeter is connected to the positive and negative terminals to determine the voltage.

3. How does the voltage of a battery affect its performance?

The voltage of a battery is directly related to its energy output. A higher voltage means the battery has the potential to provide more energy to power a device. However, it is important to note that other factors, such as the battery's age and capacity, also play a role in its performance.

4. Can a battery have a voltage that is too high or too low?

Yes, a battery can have a voltage that is too high or too low. If the voltage is too high, it can damage the electronic device it is powering. If the voltage is too low, the device may not function properly or not function at all. It is important to use batteries with the correct voltage for the device.

5. Is the voltage of a battery the same as its capacity?

No, the voltage and capacity of a battery are two different measurements. Voltage refers to the electrical potential difference, while capacity refers to the amount of energy a battery can store. A battery can have a high voltage but a low capacity, meaning it can provide a lot of energy in a short amount of time, but not for a long period of time.

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