What does “Media Upgrade” mean in Thomas' Calculus textbook?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between two versions of Thomas' Calculus textbook, specifically focusing on the "Media Upgrade" edition of the 11th edition compared to the standard 11th edition. Participants explore the implications of the media upgrade on the content and quality of the textbook, as well as personal experiences with various editions over time.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the specific changes that the "Media Upgrade" entails compared to the regular 11th edition.
  • Others express skepticism about relying on memory for details of older editions, suggesting that the 11th edition remains popular and has both plain and media upgrade versions.
  • A participant shares extensive experience with various editions of Thomas' Calculus, recommending editions prior to the 10th edition and expressing concerns about the quality of later editions.
  • It is noted that the "Media Upgrade" likely includes a media package, such as CDs, which the standard edition does not have.
  • There is a suggestion to visit a university library to explore different editions and find one that suits individual preferences, highlighting the subjective nature of textbook quality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the value or quality of the different editions, with some favoring older editions and others focusing on the features of the current versions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the significance of the media upgrade.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific content changes in the media upgrade and the implications of the editions being rewritten extensively. There is also a lack of clarity on the exact nature of the media package included in the upgraded version.

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What is the difference between: THOMAS' CALCULUS, media UPGRADE (11TH EDITION) [ISBN-13 9780321489876] and THOMAS' CALCULUS (11TH EDITION) [ISBN-13 9780321185587]? could you provide detailed answer please?

what does the title-addition "Media Upgrade" mean and what changes does it make on the contents of the regular THOMAS' CALCULUS (11TH EDITION)?
 
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TMNNN said:
What is the difference between: THOMAS' CALCULUS, media UPGRADE (11TH EDITION) [ISBN-13 9780321489876] and THOMAS' CALCULUS (11TH EDITION) [ISBN-13 9780321185587]? could you provide detailed answer please?

what does the title-addition "Media Upgrade" mean and what changes does it make on the contents of the regular THOMAS' CALCULUS (11TH EDITION)?
Links please?
 
You do realize you are counting on someone to remember the details of two different versions of an eleven-year-old edition?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
You do realize you are counting on someone to remember the details of two different versions of an eleven-year-old edition?
the 11ed is very popular edition of TC until today as it is considered the last classic Thomas Calculus edition.
besides, even today's editions of TC have the plain version and media upgrade version
 
I taught and studied from various editions of Thomas, for close to 40 years, starting from maybe the second or third, and up through the 9th, 10th and later versions after Thomas himself had died. From this experience I would not recoomend any editions bearing the names of Haas and Weir, although the 9th edition with Finney seemed nice. Thus I would recommend only editions up through the 9th, preferably much earlier ones from the 1950's and 1960's.

To answer the question posed about the difference between the two 11th editions linked, it is obvious from the description on amazon that one of them includes a "media package" i.e. probably some cd's, that the other one lacks. Of course the old ones I recommend will not have media packages, but will be of higher intellectual quality.

In my opinion, the last "classic" Thomas edition was the one from roughly 1957, sometimes republished later as the "alternate" edition. As usual, the best approach is to visit a university library and browse the various editions they stock, and choose the one you like. You may hate the ones I recommend, especially if you are someone who wants media packages with your books.

I cannot actually search the 11th edition online and it is possible since it has a new title "Thomas' Calculus", that it is a republication of an earlier edition I would like. Though I doubt it, since they claim to have rewritten it extensively, which is bad news for an early edition. The editions I liked least I think were called "University Calculus" by Thomas, Weir, Haas.
 
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