What Does the Encircled Equation Mean?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of an encircled equation related to the components of forces in a physics problem. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the components of the resultant force are equated to zero, focusing on the horizontal and vertical components of the forces involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the encircled equation and its implications regarding the $\hat{i}$ and $\hat{j}$ components of forces.
  • One participant states that the resultant force $\mathbf F_R$ can be expressed as $0\cdot \boldsymbol{\hat\imath} + 0 \cdot \boldsymbol{\hat\jmath}$, suggesting that both components are zero.
  • Another participant questions the reasoning behind the components being zero, proposing that the components of $F_{R}$ are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction, leading to a resultant of zero.
  • Participants are attempting to clarify the separation of forces into horizontal and vertical components, but there is uncertainty about the reasoning behind the zero values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the reasoning behind why the components of the resultant force are zero. Multiple viewpoints are presented, with some participants agreeing on the mathematical representation while others question the underlying assumptions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the conditions under which the components are considered zero, particularly in relation to the problem statement regarding the resultant force.

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Hello! :)

I just want to ask how, did the encircled portion come about?

It says that it equates the $\hat{i}$ and $\hat{j}$ components.

but when I tried that, this is what I get

$0.5447F_{1}=F_{3}(\sin(\theta)-\cos(\theta))$ ---> This expression doesn't ring a bell. It doesn't make any sense to me.
 

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Drain Brain said:
Hello! :)

I just want to ask how, did the encircled portion come about?

It says that it equates the $\hat{i}$ and $\hat{j}$ components.

but when I tried that, this is what I get

$0.5447F_{1}=F_{3}(\sin(\theta)-\cos(\theta))$ ---> This expression doesn't ring a bell. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Hi Drain Brain,

The $\mathbf F_R$ on the left hand side is really:
$$\mathbf F_R = 0\cdot \boldsymbol{\hat\imath} + 0 \cdot \boldsymbol{\hat\jmath}$$
Since the $\boldsymbol{\hat\imath}$ component is completely independent from the $\boldsymbol{\hat\jmath}$, we match them left and right.

Put otherwise, we separate the equation in:
- Sum of the horizontal forces is zero
- Sum of the vertical forces is zero
 
I like Serena said:
Hi Drain Brain,

The $\mathbf F_R$ on the left hand side is really:
$$\mathbf F_R = 0\cdot \boldsymbol{\hat\imath} + 0 \cdot \boldsymbol{\hat\jmath}$$
Since the $\boldsymbol{\hat\imath}$ component is completely independent from the $\boldsymbol{\hat\jmath}$, we match them left and right.

Put otherwise, we separate the equation in:
- Sum of the horizontal forces is zero
- Sum of the vertical forces is zero

Hi, I Like Serena!

Can you tell me why the i and j components become 0?

What I'm thinking about the problem is that the components of $F_{R}$ are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction that's why they cancel each other and produce a resultant of 0. Is my line of thinking correct? If not please explain to me why the components became both 0. Thanks!
 
Drain Brain said:
Hi, I Like Serena!

Can you tell me why the i and j components become 0?

What I'm thinking about the problem is that the components of $F_{R}$ are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction that's why they cancel each other and produce a resultant of 0. Is my line of thinking correct? If not please explain to me why the components became both 0. Thanks!

It's because the problem statement says:

The three concurrent forces acting on the screw eye produce a resultant force of $\mathbf F_R = \mathbf 0$.
 

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