What does the Uncertainty Principle say about the location of photons?

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The discussion centers on the implications of the Uncertainty Principle in quantum mechanics, particularly regarding the location of photons. Participants clarify that while the speed of photons in a vacuum is well-defined, their exact position cannot be determined due to the lack of a position operator for massless particles. The conversation also highlights that measuring a photon's position with precision results in an undefined momentum, illustrating the inherent trade-off dictated by the Uncertainty Principle. Furthermore, the nature of light propagation through different media is explored, emphasizing that the speed of light is affected by collective atomic behaviors rather than simple absorption and re-emission processes.

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  • #31
zonde said:
Explanations like that are only speculations.

So I can propose different speculation.
When you go down to length scales of photon wavelength photon is traveling as a wave i.e. it travels many available paths. In material these paths are not straight and when you average over all the paths the photon travels within one wavelength it is shorter then straight path would be. So while you can still say that it travels at c average speed will be less than c.

We know that gravity changes the space making it curved. The same is valid for charged particles in EM field. Unlike gravity where only "pits" are possible, in EM field we will have "pits" and "hills". Also these "pits" and "hills" can be packed very tight depending on material density. More dense material means more pits and hills. So photon traveling through this EM field curved space will need more time to cross it compared to the straight line defined by the local gravity field.

That is my speculation. :devil:
 

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