News What happened with S. 190 and why was it not passed?

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The upcoming debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden is anticipated to showcase a significant disparity in their debate skills, with many expecting Biden to dominate. Palin's reputation for using vague generalities and rehearsed lines may hinder her ability to engage effectively with Biden, who is seen as articulate and well-prepared. Observers believe that while Biden should maintain composure and let Palin expose her weaknesses, there is a risk he could become overly aggressive or make a gaffe. Despite low expectations for Palin, some argue that her performance may resonate with her base, complicating the narrative of the debate. Overall, the debate is viewed as a critical moment that could impact the McCain-Palin campaign significantly.
  • #61
Is she winking or is it a nervous tick?

Palin: "Oh, gosh darn it, could I be more corny?" Can the woman not take this seriously? Is she going to get into nuculer arms discussions "wink, wink"?
 
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  • #62
Palin is absolutely wrong about Afghanistan and she's spouting propaganda.


The US military has struck villages and has killed many civilians. That's documented.

The US government has failed to provide funds promised to Afghanistan. Private entities from the US are.

USAID claims that schools and clinics are being built in Afghanistan. This has yet to be verified. http://www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_near_east/countries/afghanistan/
Investing In People: Health and Education
In 2002, when schools first reopened, ninety-seven percent of the country's girls did not attend school. By the end of Taliban rule, 80 percent of existing schools were either severely damaged or destroyed. To improve the situation, USAID has constructed or refurbished over 670 schools and distributed textbooks, school supplies and training materials. USAID created an accelerated learning program that enrolled over 170,000 students, more than half of which were girls. USAID also works to improve the quality of teaching, management, and information systems at Afghan universities, and teacher training through radio broadcasts reaches 65,000 teachers daily in all 34 provinces.

The health status of Afghans is among the worst in the world - one out of every five Afghan children dies before the age of five. To provide Afghans with access to basic health services, USAID has constructed or refurbished over 670 clinics throughout the country, established over 3,000 health posts, and supports the operations of 360 health facilities, including the provision of all medicines and expendable supplies. USAID has also trained over 1,000 midwives to work in hospitals and clinics throughout the country, which has helped reduce maternal and infant mortality.
 
  • #63
Wow! she's rambling!
 
  • #64
Evo said:
Is she winking or is it a nervous tick?

did it again!

did she start talking about education when they were talking about economies?
 
  • #65
Astronuc said:
Palin is absolutely wrong about Afghanistan and she's spouting propaganda.


The US military has struck villages and has killed many civilians. That's documented.

She clearly has no clue!


Did she just basically push for more power? Wow.. so not only is she crazy, but she's also power hungry!
 
  • #66
Palin on the VP's role... Train Wreck!
 
  • #67
Unless she's going to give her speeches naked, or maybe even partially naked, I'm going to just ignore her until she goes away. I already know who I'm voting for anyway.
 
  • #68
9:20 Palin is puking bad - word-pile!
 
  • #69
Palin just hit rock bottom "about being a mom, about having a son in Iraq, about having a special needs child". I have never ever heard a man claim that being a father gives him any special abilities, yet she keeps regurgitating this like it has some meaning.
 
  • #70
Maverick again?? another drink for me!...

<- just drinking when she says maverick, forget the rest, I love my liver.
 
  • #71
I've lost track of the "mavericks"
 
  • #72
Evo said:
I have never ever heard a man claim that being a father gives him any special abilities, yet she keeps regurgitating this like it has some meaning.

And look what Biden pulled out in response.. fighting back tears when talking about his family and his son who obviously had some problems/accident (I don't know the history).

Now he's picked up on the 'maverick' card, and pointing out the crap there. Haha.. fantastic!
 
  • #73
Evo said:
Palin just hit rock bottom "about being a mom, about having a son in Iraq, about having a special needs child". I have never ever heard a man claim that being a father gives him any special abilities, yet she keeps regurgitating this like it has some meaning.

But that's the kind of gingerbread talk many uncertain McCain voters eat up. Sweet and empty.
 
  • #74
cristo said:
And look what Biden pulled out in response.. fighting back tears when talking about his family and his son who obviously had some problems/accident (I don't know the history).
It's sad, he got her back on that one. Good for him. Maybe that will shut her up. (I doubt it)

In her wildest dreams she's never faced what he went through.
 
  • #75
cristo said:
And look what Biden pulled out in response.. fighting back tears when talking about his family and his son who obviously had some problems/accident (I don't know the history).

Now he's picked up on the 'maverick' card, and pointing out the crap there. Haha.. fantastic!

His family history:
WikiPedia said:
But then Biden's wife and year-old daughter were killed in an automobile accident while Christmas shopping in Hockessin, Delaware on December 18, 1972, just a few weeks after the election. (Neilia Biden's station wagon was hit by a tractor-trailer as she pulled out from an intersection; the truck driver was cleared of any wrongdoing.) Biden's two sons, Beau and Hunter, were critically injured in the accident, ...
 
  • #76
OAQfirst said:
But that's the kind of gingerbread talk many uncertain McCain voters eat up. Sweet and empty.
Unfortunately, it's true.
 
  • #77
OAQfirst said:
She couldn't sound coherent in a sit down with reporters, but here she's getting by? Something's up.

Girls can talk...

I thought she did a great job tonight.

Obama & Palin! '08!

...

Moral turpitude?... that's me... :redface:
 
  • #78
I sure wish these Democrats would stop whining about Exxon getting tax breaks. Geez. One of the stocks I have that's doing sort of OK.
 
  • #79
cristo said:
And look what Biden pulled out in response.. fighting back tears when talking about his family and his son who obviously had some problems/accident (I don't know the history).

Now he's picked up on the 'maverick' card, and pointing out the crap there. Haha.. fantastic!
Biden's first wife and daughter were killed, and two sons injured. I expect he was wondering back then if one of his sons was going to live or not.

But then Biden's wife and year-old daughter were killed in an automobile accident while Christmas shopping in Hockessin, Delaware on December 18, 1972, just a few weeks after the election. (Neilia Biden's station wagon was hit by a tractor-trailer as she pulled out from an intersection; the truck driver was cleared of any wrongdoing.) Biden's two sons, Beau and Hunter, were critically injured in the accident, but both eventually made full recoveries. Biden considered resigning in order to care for them; persuaded not to by Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield, he was sworn into office from one of their bedsides. The accident left Biden filled with both anger and religious doubt: "I liked to [walk around seedy neighborhoods] at night when I thought there was a better chance of finding a fight ... I had not known I was capable of such rage ... I felt God had played a horrible trick on me."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#Family_and_early_political_career

What I got from a Fox news affiliate. :smile:
Joe Biden - experienced
Sarah Palin - folksy (winking at the camera)
 
  • #80
Biden did OK, Palin seemed to go off on tangents instead of concentrating on the actual questions. Still Palin didn't act quite as stupid as he has been, so the GOP will be crowing about how she knocked it out of the park.
 
  • #81
Well, clearly it wasn't a "knock out for biden" and she had few blatant gaffes, at least no more than Biden.

I think Biden won the debate though obviously and he seemed very genuine. He did much better than Obama, and he did a better job of addressing his opponent's points. I thought he had a clever answer ever attack she leveraged against him.

I wish Biden was the Democrats presidential nominee, he's great.

His remarks that we need a change in our economic philosophy and that there is a toxic mess on wall street affecting mainstreet were brilliant.
 
  • #82
The memorization of part's of Reagan's farewell address was a little too much of a gimmick. It's too bad that she apparently has so little thought of her own.
 
  • #83
turbo-1 said:
Biden did OK, Palin seemed to go off on tangents instead of concentrating on the actual questions. Still Palin didn't act quite as stupid as he has been, so the GOP will be crowing about how she knocked it out of the park.

That's just what Pat Buchannan was effusing. I think he must have wet his pants he was so happy. Hope he was wearing fresh Depends.
 
  • #84
LowlyPion said:
The memorization of part's of Reagan's farewell address was a little too much of a gimmick. It's too bad that she apparently has so little thought of her own.
Her job was to memorize as much as possible.

CNN, it seems the overwhelming consensus is that Joe Biden was the most informed, the most factual, and the only one that answered all of the questions. Palin was dinged for avoiding answering several questions by bringing up her Alaskan energy "comfort zone" which was absolutely ridiculous, like in bringing it up when asked about mortgage bankruptcies.
 
  • #85
Looks like FoxNews has assembled a Popeil late night audience of headbobbers that are supposed to be "typical" voters - maybe of their lame target audience. Apparently some of them were fed lines because they didn't do that good a job reciting. An unbelievable display of bald propaganda. And true to form the Fox spinners in the tent outside are high-fiving themselves and predicting a massive shift in polling data.
 
  • #86
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM>



She just got blown away. EVO, you must be smashed right now you MAVRICK, don't cha-know.
 
  • #87
Cyrus said:
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM>



She just got blown away. EVO, you must be smashed right now you MAVRICK, don't cha-know.
If I wasn't drinking Fresca, I would have had a fatal blood alcohol level 12 minutes into the debate. You bet you "wink, wink".
 
  • #88
LowlyPion said:
Looks like FoxNews has assembled a Popeil late night audience of headbobbers that are supposed to be "typical" voters - maybe of their lame target audience. Apparently some of them were fed lines because they didn't do that good a job reciting. An unbelievable display of bald propaganda. And true to form the Fox spinners in the tent outside are high-fiving themselves and predicting a massive shift in polling data.
How can you even watch that?

CNN did polls, Biden won.
 
  • #89
Evo said:
How can you even watch that?

CNN did polls, Biden won.

I'm an omnivore.

I know what Rachel Maddow thinks. I want to hear the ignorant Fox propagandists first hand to get a broader idea of things.

I heard from Fred Thompson how absolutely thrilled he was that she proved the media wrong and how splendidly she did.
 
  • #90
Evo said:
If I wasn't drinking Fresca, I would have had a fatal blood alcohol level 12 minutes into the debate. You bet you "wink, wink".

Gosh darnet! Ge golly. Jimmy Jillikers batman!
 

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