What Happens If a PC Power Supply is Maxed Out?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the implications of maxing out a PC power supply, particularly in the context of a slim-line PC with a 220W power supply. Participants explore potential outcomes when using video cards that require more power than the supply can provide, including concerns about system stability and hardware damage.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that exceeding the power supply's capacity could prevent the PC from booting, potentially damaging the power supply or other components.
  • Another suggests that some power supplies lack circuit breakers or fuses, increasing the risk of damage.
  • It is mentioned that a power supply might handle a slight overload (e.g., 50W over its rating) without immediate failure, but could lead to voltage drops affecting performance.
  • Some video cards may have built-in mechanisms to shut down when they detect insufficient power, although this is not universally applicable.
  • A participant explains that power supplies have specific current limits for different voltages, and exceeding these could lead to overheating or shutdown.
  • There is a suggestion that upgrading to a higher wattage power supply could be a cost-effective solution, although concerns about the non-standard nature of the current supply are raised.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the risks associated with exceeding power supply limits, with no consensus on the exact outcomes or best practices. Some agree on the potential dangers, while others provide differing perspectives on the feasibility of upgrading the power supply.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in power supply designs and the specific requirements of different components, indicating that the discussion may be limited by assumptions about hardware compatibility and the definitions of power supply ratings.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to PC builders, gamers considering hardware upgrades, and individuals troubleshooting power supply issues in custom or older systems.

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I currently have a slim-line PC I bought real cheap.

http://www.abcwarehouse.com/product_catalog/pc_proddetails.asp~prod_id~34788#

I paid $200, not bad.

Well, the case is Custom, as is the internal power supply.

The video card is lacking, and I know there are quite a few pci-e low-profile cards that I can put in, but the power supply on the PC is only 220W, and a few of the low-profile cards require 300,400, etc.
(I have a good gaming laptop already, this is just for my girlfiends/home use)
I know the max ANY video card that I can use is like 150W, but I have no idea on the actual computers load.

If I get one that "requires" 300W, and I do something intensive, what would happen? Would it just shut off? Would it fry the power supply? Is there a fuse somewhere? Etc.

Anyone know?
 
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It would likely not boot. It could fry the supply. It could fry other parts of the computer. Many PC power supplies have gotten so cheap that they don't have circuit breakers or fuses that can be replaced by the user.

If you don't mind how it looks and you know a little about putting together computers then you might consider taking the side off the case, getting a used but working 450 watt supply, carefully sitting it on top of a box next to the computer, unplug the internal custom nonstandard supply, plugging in the standard supply and using the computer.

My mother's more-than-a-decade-old computer running her absolutely essential dBaseIII blew a supply. All I had with me at the time was a junk computer but I was able to do what I described above and got it working. It is a dust magnet but it has been working for her for a couple of years that way.

Be careful if you try this. I wouldn't want to be responsible for someone who didn't know what they were doing ending up ruining something important or valuable to them. If you aren't sure you know enough to do this then ask around to find someone who really knows what they are doing and isn't just saying they do.
 
The depends on the power supply. If you go 50watts over what the PS rated for it will probably be fine. Given its an Acer, if you push it really far the lines will probably start to drop in voltage until the PC artifacts or shuts down.
 
Often, depending on the video card, the card will shut itself down when it detects low power. I know nVidia cards do this, I'm not sure about yours. I'm having a problem along these lines and after the card shuts down it has an led error code that indicates as much. Alas, I must wait to buy a new PS.
 
It's more complicated than that. A power supply has a limit on the current it can put out for each voltage. These should not be exceeded - if they are, one of three bad things can happen: the power supply can detect the overload and shut down, the voltage can drop making the computer shut down, or the power supply can overheat.

A 250W supply might be able to put out 20A at 3.3V, 25A at 5V, 13A at 12V, but no more than 250 in total. A high end graphics card is very likely to push this over the top in one or more of these categories.

I would avoid any video card that required external power. PCIe provides up to 75W, so if it needs external power, it's drawing more than that.
 
Really, you should be able to obtain a 450w power supply for less than 20$. This should solve your problem a lot easier. Even cheaper if you buy used. I recently acquired two 500w ps for 10 each and one caught fire. I will say that it was kind of worth 10$ watching it catch fire as I have never seen that happen before. Anyway, the point is that you could avoid this problem all together upgrading your ps on the cheap.
 
Except that the present power supply is non-standard. That means it's probably not cheap to upgrade.
 

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