What happens if shielded cable has short to the shield?

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While I was rolling out a shielded cable, a though came to my mind - what happens to the current flow in the cable if there came a short between the wire and the shield in both ends of the cable?

For simplicity, lets assume a 1-wire copper wire wrapped in an aluminum shield. The wire and the shield has the same cross section area. There are insulating material between them, and in both ends there is a short between them.

My first thought, the total resistance of the cable would be reduced. Seeing the copperwire as an resistor, adding the shield is like connecting two resistors in parallel. Despite having the same cross section area, the aluminum has higher resistance, so the total resistance would go down, but not very much.

My next thought was about the skin effect. Remembering that electrons like to travel along the outer edge of a wire. Now that they have the ability to chose a path with a even more outer edge would that make them prefer the aluminum path of the inner copper? If so, would they actually chose the path of HIGHER resistance? Could there be some conditions where the total resistance of the cable actually increases when the shield is included?

Maybe the behavior is dependent of if the current is DC or high frequency AC?

Could someone shed some light on this?
 
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It's worse than that.
A single shielded cable normally expects the return current to pass through the shield. The shield will often be connect to the circuit ground or perhaps even the chassis ground.
So at the signal source end, the signal will be grounded - possibly resulting in an overcurrent. At the destination end, any residual signal or stray noise will be similarly grounded. So, no signal will pass.

There are cases where you could get a distorted signal, but in the simplest cases you will get nothing.
 
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solvejskovlund said:
For simplicity, lets assume a 1-wire copper wire wrapped in an aluminum shield. The wire and the shield has the same cross section area. There are insulating material between them, and in both ends there is a short between them.
I believe you are talking about a coaxial transmission line.

A signal current on the outside of the inner conductor, will be equal and opposite to the signal current on the inside of the outer conductor. The volume of the internal insulation, between the two conductor surfaces, is an orderly, but isolated transmission line cavity, a universe, connected to the outside, only at the two ends, but you have shorted those end ports, preventing internal currents.

The signal on the outside of the outer conductor, is not related to the balanced signal on the inside of the transmission line. In effect, signals do not flow through the holes in the shield. The current on the outside of the shield is equal and opposite to the current flowing on the surface of the conductive environment that surrounds the cable. That includes all the local sources of RF, that will be reflected from the outside of the outer conductive shield, screening the inner world. That outside universe makes an ugly and mismatched transmission line, separate from the universe inside.
 
.Scott said:
So at the signal source end, the signal will be grounded to nothing - possibly resulting in an overcurrent.
Well, if the shield was connected to something else, then surely that something would be affected as well. But I was thinking of what happens to just the cable, for the simplification used as a 1-wire only. This implies that there must be another path/cable for the return current.
 
Baluncore said:
I believe you are talking about a coaxial transmission line.

It's quite similar to a coax, yes. Just that the shield in a coax tend to be woven copper, while the cable I was handling, and got me into this thinking, was a aluminum sheet wrapped around.

Baluncore said:
A signal current on the outside of the inner conductor, will be equal and opposite to the signal current on the inside of the outer conductor. The volume of the internal insulation, between the two conductor surfaces, is an orderly, but isolated transmission line cavity, a universe, connected to the outside, only at the two ends, but you have shorted those end ports, preventing internal currents.

The signal on the outside of the outer conductor, is not related to the balanced signal on the inside of the transmission line. In effect, signals do not flow through the holes in the shield. The current on the outside of the shield is equal and opposite to the current flowing on the surface of the conductive environment that surrounds the cable. That includes all the local sources of RF, that will be reflected from the outside of the outer conductive shield, screening the inner world. That outside universe makes an ugly and mismatched transmission line, separate from the universe inside.
Either I don't understand what you are explaining, or we are thinking two very different scenarios. What are the "holes in the shield"?
 
solvejskovlund said:
What are the "holes in the shield"?
They are the gaps between the woven wire of a coaxial outer braid, or the very narrow slots between the edges of a metal foil tape, wound or wrapped around the outside of the insulation, to provide an internal return circuit, and to screen the cable from external influences.
 
solvejskovlund said:
Well, if the shield was connected to something else, then surely that something would be affected as well. But I was thinking of what happens to just the cable, for the simplification used as a 1-wire only. This implies that there must be another path/cable for the return current.
The "to nothing" part was basically a typo. The signal source will be shorted to ground, the same ground as the shielding. So, that will be the end of your signal.

@Baluncore described how this kind of cable is used. The purpose of having the shielding fully encircle the core is to protect the voltage difference between the shield and the core from being affected by outside electromagnetic fields. If you short the core and shield together, that voltage difference goes to zero.

There is another shielding configuration called "shielded twisted pairs". And since the name describes the design of the cable, you can guess what they look like. For that kind of cable, the outside shielding is not involved in carrying current - in fact, it is often grounded at one end and left open on the other. It is especially useful is keep magnetic pulses in the environment or crosstalk from other wire pairs it is running with from inducing any current in the twisted pair. And since the pair of signal-carrying wires are twisted together, any external influence will likely affect both wires equally - keeping their voltage difference the same.
 
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