What happens to the energy in case of destructive interference ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of destructive interference, particularly in the context of sound waves, water waves, and photons. Participants explore the implications of energy conservation and the fate of energy during destructive interference events.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions where the energy goes during destructive interference in sound waves produced by two speakers emitting inverted phases, suggesting it might turn into heat.
  • Another participant states that destructive interference occurs at specific points, implying that total energy is conserved despite local cancellations.
  • A participant inquires about the energy dynamics when two water waves with opposite phases interact, again questioning the fate of the energy involved.
  • There is a discussion about the behavior of photons during constructive interference, with a participant wondering if two photons of the same phase combine into a single photon of higher energy.
  • One participant notes that while sound intensity varies in a room due to interference, the total energy remains constant when integrated over the entire space.
  • A later reply suggests that sound is not completely canceled by phase inversion and questions the practicality of devices that convert sound to heat instead of allowing sound interference.
  • Another participant mentions that while acoustic padding can convert sound to heat, it is not suitable for outdoor use due to porosity and fire hazards.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the conservation of energy principle, but there are competing views regarding the implications of destructive interference and the effectiveness of sound dampening methods.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of energy transformation during interference events remain unaddressed, and the discussion does not resolve the specifics of energy dissipation in different contexts.

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What happens to the energy in case of "destructive interference"?

Hi everyone,

I'll mention a few cases here.

1) In case of sound suppose we have two speakers. One gives off a certain sound and the other speaker gives off the exact inverted phase of the other speaker's sound, both with the samer power. No sound will be heard BUT my qs now where does the energy go? I suspect heat but am not sure.

2) Two water waves with exact opposite phases come across each other. Again they cancel each other out and the water is still. BUT where does the energy go here? Again heat or something else?

3) Two photons as far as I am aware would form a pair of elementary particles BUT here I'd like to know what happens if two photons of the SAME PHASE come together i.e. wht happens in case of CONstructive interference in case of photons? Does it turn into one single photon of higher energy?

Thankyou very much!
 
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Destructive interference only occurs at a set of points, not everywhere. Constructive interference also occurs at a set of points, not everywhere. When you add up the total energy, you'll see that it is conserved.
 


@Vanadium

Vanadium 50 said:
Destructive interference only occurs at a set of points, not everywhere. Constructive interference also occurs at a set of points, not everywhere. When you add up the total energy, you'll see that it is conserved.

JK- In my first example if we have two loudpeakers, one producing the sound and the other the anti sound of euqal amounts and both are switched on at say 500 Watts, no sound will be heard or will it? If not what happens to the energy in that case? Thanks.
 


At some points in the room, the intensity of the sound (energy per volume) will be twice what it would have been without the interference. At other points the intensity will be zero. The total energy integrated over the entire room will be the same as it would have been without interference.
 


@jtbell

jtbell said:
At some points in the room, the intensity of the sound (energy per volume) will be twice what it would have been without the interference. At other points the intensity will be zero. The total energy integrated over the entire room will be the same as it would have been without interference.

JK- AHA so the sound is not totally canceled out with a phase inverter/anti sound device. BUT then i wonder why not use a device which turns the sound completely into heat, which is way less disturbing at tht power rate to the environment, instead of more disturbing sound at other places? Thanks.
 


Acoustic padding convert sound to heat but they are very porous so they are ill-suited for outdoor use. Large scale use will also make them extreme fire hazard.
 


@crapworks

crapworks said:
Acoustic padding convert sound to heat but they are very porous so they are ill-suited for outdoor use. Large scale use will also make them extreme fire hazard.

JK- Thanks. :smile:
 

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