What Happens When Current is Introduced into an Ungrounded Faraday Cage?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric fields and currents within an ungrounded Faraday cage. Participants explore the implications of introducing current and charges into the cage, examining both theoretical and practical aspects of its shielding properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that introducing electrons onto a Faraday cage results in a uniform charge distribution, leading to no electric field inside the cage.
  • Others argue that if a charge is placed inside the cage, it creates a field between the charge and the cage's potential, which contradicts the idea of no electric field.
  • There is a claim that if there is no potential difference inside the cage, there can be no current flow.
  • Some participants inquire about the effects of external currents and whether they can penetrate the cage's internal face.
  • There are discussions about how charges redistribute themselves in response to external fields, potentially generating electric fields outside the cage when charges are present inside.
  • Several participants express confusion regarding the implications of inserting current and how it relates to the behavior of charges within the cage.
  • One participant questions the relationship between excess charges and electric fields, suggesting that introducing current implies the presence of an electric field.
  • There are references to the effects of lightning strikes on a Faraday cage and whether a person inside would be safe if they touched the metal during such an event.
  • Some participants discuss the concept of a "perfect" Faraday cage and its theoretical implications for safety during electrical events.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effects of introducing current into an ungrounded Faraday cage. Multiple competing views remain regarding the behavior of electric fields and charges, as well as the implications for safety during electrical events.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various concepts such as electrostatics, induction, and Gaussian law, indicating a need for a deeper understanding of these principles to clarify the discussion. There are also mentions of quantum effects and the limitations of constructing a perfect Faraday cage.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying electrostatics, electrical engineering, or safety protocols related to electrical fields and shielding methods.

  • #31
Current will indeed flow through the wall of a Faraday cage; they have lights in there.

A car is not a particularly good Faraday cage. It is made of a poor conductor and has large openings together with lots of "sneak" paths.

There are at least two documented cases of a person(the same person!) being struck by lightning while inside a car (well, actually a truck in one case).
 
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  • #32
(From an earlier post of mine.) Member NoTime has mentioned the same thing.

In the ideal case, the Faraday cage should be an unbroken hollow conducting shell. Then there cannot be any electrical field inside due to outside fields. In practice, it is made of fine mesh, and connected to the ground, that is earthed.

A heavy duty properly grounded cage will prevent lightning from passing through. But, theoretically, it's possible to imagine an exceptionally powerful bolt of lightning entering it, because it's a mesh, not an unbroken hollow shell.
 

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