What is an electrostatic/Coulomb barrier? How is it created?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the electrostatic or Coulomb barrier in the context of nuclear fusion. Participants explore how this barrier is created and the forces involved in overcoming it, touching on both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that for nuclear fusion to occur, particles must overcome the electrostatic field, which raises questions about its nature and formation.
  • Another participant explains that unlike charges attract while like charges repel, emphasizing that positively charged atomic nuclei repel each other, necessitating a force to overcome the Coulomb barrier.
  • A participant draws an analogy between the electrostatic field surrounding charged particles and the gravitational field, highlighting the differences in attraction and repulsion.
  • One participant questions why it is possible to touch two repelling magnets while overcoming the electrostatic field is more challenging for nuclear fusion particles, suggesting that the strength of the electrostatic field may depend on the energy of the particles involved.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of two forces acting on protons: the long-range repelling electrostatic force and the short-range strong interaction that binds them, indicating that overcoming the repulsive force is necessary for fusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and curiosity about the electrostatic barrier and the forces involved in nuclear fusion. There is no consensus on the specifics of how the electrostatic field operates in different contexts, and questions remain about the comparative strength of these forces.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention different forces acting on charged particles, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities of these interactions or the conditions under which they operate.

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I learned that for nuclear fusion to take place, particles must overcome the electrostatic field but what exactly is it? And how is it created/formed?
 
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It's pretty simple stuff. Unlike charges attract but like charges repel. The particles that we're fusing (atomic nuclei) are positively charged so they naturally repel one another; to fuse them we have to force them together ("push them through the Coulomb barrier").

The electrostatic field is the field that surrounds a charged particle and attracts particles with one charge and repels particles with the other charge. It's pretty much analogous to the gravitational field that surrounds the Earth and pulls things towards the earth; the only big difference is that the gravitational field happens to always attract.
 
This is an illustration of what Nugatory was describing:

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Nugatory said:
It's pretty simple stuff. Unlike charges attract but like charges repel. The particles that we're fusing (atomic nuclei) are positively charged so they naturally repel one another; to fuse them we have to force them together ("push them through the Coulomb barrier").

The electrostatic field is the field that surrounds a charged particle and attracts particles with one charge and repels particles with the other charge. It's pretty much analogous to the gravitational field that surrounds the Earth and pulls things towards the earth; the only big difference is that the gravitational field happens to always attract.
Well that kinda gives me a new question: I'm assuming this electromagnetic field applies to magnets as well, so why is it that I can touch two magnets that repel each other and break the electrostatic field but for the nuclear fusion particles it wouldn't be so easy? Why is the electrostatic field stronger with those individual particles? Does it depend on the amount of energy they have?
 
If you take two protons there are two different forces between them: one is the long range repelling electrostatic force [every charged particle, like a proton, produces an electric force onto every other charged particles], the other is the very short range "strong interaction" that binds the two particles together. So you need to push the two protons close enough (overcoming the repulsive force) in order for the strong interaction to fuse them together.
 

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