What is best self-study Relativity Books?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for self-study books on relativity, addressing both special and general relativity. Participants express varying levels of mathematical proficiency and seek guidance on accessible resources suitable for beginners.

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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest Bernard Schutz's book as a suitable first choice for learning relativity.
  • Others recommend starting with Einstein's "Relativity, the Special & General Theory," particularly focusing on the special relativity section before progressing to general relativity.
  • A participant mentions "The Meaning of Relativity" as a good resource, though they note they only skimmed the final section.
  • There are inquiries about the mathematical prerequisites for understanding general relativity, with some suggesting that undergraduate-level E&M and mechanics, as well as knowledge of vector calculus and differential equations, would be beneficial.
  • One participant highlights "Relativity Simply Explained" by Martin Gardner as a potential resource.
  • Another participant mentions "A Traveler's Guide to Spacetime" and "Einstein's Theory of Relativity" by Born as clear introductions to the concepts leading to general relativity.
  • There is a suggestion to complement study materials with a problem book, specifically "The Problem Book in Relativity and Gravitation" by Lightman and Price.
  • One participant introduces "The Mathematics of Relativity for the Rest of Us" by Dr. Louis Jagerman, noting its clarity and accessibility for those with limited mathematical background.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of recommendations for books, indicating no consensus on a single best resource. There is also a divergence in opinions regarding the necessary mathematical background for studying relativity, with some emphasizing the need for more advanced knowledge while others suggest more accessible options.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the time commitment required to learn the mathematics of relativity and the varying levels of mathematical sophistication needed for special versus general relativity.

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I thought I will post it in the books section,but I think I need the experts guidance,so what is/are the best self-study books...I am not so good in mathematics (Tensors...etc) just something to start with...thanks in advance
 
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totentanz said:
I thought I will post it in the books section,but I think I need the experts guidance,so what is/are the best self-study books...I am not so good in mathematics (Tensors...etc) just something to start with...thanks in advance

Start with Einstein's own little book by Crown Publishers, called "Relativity, the Special & General Theory". Just read the portion on special relativity ... save the GR stuff until MUCH later. Read that SR part of the book VERY carefully. Then read it again, and maybe even a third time.

After you've FULLY digested that, if you want more, read Taylor & Wheeler's SPACETIME PHYSICS.

Mike Fontenot
 
Mike_Fontenot said:
Start with Einstein's own little book by Crown Publishers, called "Relativity, the Special & General Theory". Just read the portion on special relativity ... save the GR stuff until MUCH later. Read that SR part of the book VERY carefully. Then read it again, and maybe even a third time.

After you've FULLY digested that, if you want more, read Taylor & Wheeler's SPACETIME PHYSICS.

Mike Fontenot

If I were going to read Einstein, I'd go with "The meaning of relativity". At least, this was good for me. (Though I only skimmed the last section on his final unified field theory).
 
Thanks...but I am intersted on how relativity works,I mean how much will it takes to now the mathematics(it took Einstein from 1905 to 1914)...thanks
 
Are you interested in special relativity or general relativity? The latter requires much more mathematical sophistication than the former.
 
"Relativity Simply Explained"
by: Martin Gardner
 
jtbell said:
Are you interested in special relativity or general relativity? The latter requires much more mathematical sophistication than the former.

In the general of course,the special does not require a lot,but the general is the real theory, I want to be able to understand (or maybe even find) the solutions to the field equation,like Schwazschield solution,and Gödel solution...how much time will it takes?and what are the tools(books)?
 
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totentanz said:
In the general of course,the special does not require a lot,but the general is the real theory, I want to be able to understand (or maybe even find) the solutions to the field equation,like Schwazschield solution,and Gödel solution...how much time will it takes?and what are the tools(books)?

I would start with https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805386629/?tag=pfamazon01-20.
 
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totentanz said:
Iwill check it out,thanks...by the way your link is not working

Try searching on "relativity" in the "Science Book Discussion" forum.
 
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Check out also "A traveler's guide to spacetime". Extremely clear on the basic concept of special relativity. On the physical foundation that lead Einstein to General Relativity from Newtonian gravity and mechanics through special relativity read: "Einstein's Theory of Relativity" by Born, also extremely clear on the basic concepts. Both inexpensive, the latter you can preview online for free and legally (I do not remember the site name, may be archive.org)
 
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Don't forgert to complement it with a problem book, such as the white book, whose authors I forget.
 
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White book??
 
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MathematicalPhysicist said:
Don't forgert to complement it with a problem book, such as the white book, whose authors I forget.

The Problem Book in Relativity and Gravitation by Lightman and Price. It includes solutions to all problems.
 
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what about the mathematics?what do you need to have before...I mean I see the field equation,I know the concept that the distribution of matter-energy effect the shape of space-time...but how much will effect for me this is the true science...thanks for everyone
who will or already offere his help
 
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totentanz said:
what about the mathematics?what do you need to have before...I mean I see the field equation,I know the concept that the distribution of matter-energy effect the shape of space-time...but how much will effect for me this is the true science...thanks for everyone
who will or already offere his help

What is your mathematical background?
 
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totentanz said:
what about the mathematics?what do you need to have before...I mean I see the field equation,I know the concept that the distribution of matter-energy effect the shape of space-time...but how much will effect for me this is the true science...thanks for everyone
who will or already offere his help

Ideally, one would have undergraduate E&M and mechanics before tackling Hartle. At least math up through vector calculus and differential equations.
 
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If you have basic calculus knowledge (and maybe not even that), the book you are probably looking for is:

The Mathematics of Relativity for the Rest of Us
Dr. Louis Jagerman M.D.

As you may have noticed it is written by an M.D. and not a physicist. Don't let that throw you off, I've had a few professors recommend this book to me because it does explain relativity in a very clear way. They will go into calc, tensors, etc...but at a very very elementary level. What this boils down to is that book is a little more serious than just a laymen's intro to relativity but not as rigorous as more traditional relativity textbooks.

One professor has told me that more than one of his grad students has been able to gain clarity from this book that they just weren't getting from traditional textbooks. So the book does offer very real knowledge of relativity.
 
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Jagerman's book seems very interesting from what I could read online at Amazon. I've ordered it.
 

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