What is knowing the Tension Force good for?

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the calculation and interpretation of tension force in vertical circular motion. Participants confirm that tension is greater at the bottom of the circle than at the top, emphasizing the implications for safety in scenarios like amusement rides. Key points include the risks of excessive tension causing rope breakage and insufficient tension leading to slack, which can result in accidents. The conversation also touches on the assumptions made regarding ideal ropes and tension distribution.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic physics concepts, particularly forces and motion.
  • Familiarity with tension force calculations in circular motion.
  • Knowledge of vector sums and their application in physics.
  • Concept of ideal ropes and their behavior under tension.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the principles of centripetal force in vertical circular motion.
  • Learn about the effects of tension in real-world applications, such as amusement park rides.
  • Explore the mathematical modeling of tension forces in ideal vs. non-ideal ropes.
  • Investigate safety measures in engineering designs involving tension forces.
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Physics students, engineers, and safety analysts involved in designing and evaluating systems that utilize tension forces in circular motion.

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So, I'm working on calculating the tension force in vertical circles-and I understand how to calculate the tension force at different points in the vertical circle (via vector sums).

But what I don't really understand is how to interpret this information.

What can I further do with these tension calculations I have made?

I know that the tension force is greater at the bottom compared to at the top of the circle-but how does knowing this further explain things (e.g. the effect it has on the object in vertical circular motion?)

Thank you for you time :)
 
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-1- Too much tension at the bottom of the arc breaks the rope -- bad

-2- Too little tension at the top of the arc let's the rope go slack, and people fall out of the amusement ride -- bad

:smile:
 
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berkeman said:
-1- Too much tension at the bottom of the arc breaks the rope -- bad

-2- Too little tension at the top of the arc let's the rope go slack, and people fall out of the amusement ride -- bad

:smile:
Wow. I can't believe it was this simple!
I feel soo... stupid.

Thank you @berkeman for clearing this up for me-it was a real eye-opener :)
 
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solarmidnightrose said:
Summary: This is in context to vertical circles

I know that the tension force is greater at the bottom compared to at the top of the circle
I'm having a problem with that statement if the rope is ideal and not extendible. Wouldn't the tension have to be the same all the way round (assuming that a longitudinal tension wave travels instantly) - the sort of assumption that's used in other rope problems - e.g. pulley systems.
@berkeman 's right about the top section sagging but I don't think a break would happen anywhere in particular for an ideal rope.
 

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