Perfection is discussed as a concept that is desirable and ideal, yet its definition is seen as arbitrary and relative to the observer. The conversation highlights the difficulty of achieving perfection, citing the law of thermodynamics and the inevitability of loss in all events. It suggests that perfection could be defined against universal standards, such as a perfect score of 100%, but acknowledges that true perfection in communication is unattainable due to the limitations of language. The discussion also notes that while individuals may disregard certain universal standards, the concept of perfection still exists independently of personal relevance. Additionally, perfection is described as a feeling, such as joy from being around someone admired or the satisfaction of achievement, emphasizing its subjective nature.