What Is Tensile Strength? | A Physics Novice's Questions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of tensile strength, particularly focusing on the forces that hold the atoms or molecules of materials, such as ropes, together. Participants explore the nature of these forces and the underlying principles that contribute to tensile strength, touching on both chemical and electromagnetic interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Karim questions what force is responsible for maintaining the cohesion of atoms or molecules in a rope and what tension must overcome to break it.
  • Another participant notes that if tensile strength is the force keeping atoms/molecules together, it raises the question of what causes this force.
  • One participant explains that molecular asymmetry leads to attractions between oppositely charged parts of molecules.
  • Another participant states that the forces between atoms are primarily due to chemical bonds and that these forces are of electromagnetic origin, linked to shared electrons.
  • A later reply mentions that a comprehensive explanation of tensile strength would require quantum mechanical treatment and references the virial theorem's implications on classical charge arrangements and tensile strength, though no specific reference is provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express curiosity and raise questions about the nature of forces related to tensile strength, but there is no consensus on the underlying mechanisms or the necessity of quantum mechanical treatment.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of explaining tensile strength, indicating limitations in understanding without delving into quantum mechanics and the potential challenges in applying classical physics to this topic.

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I am a Physics novice.

While reading an article on tensile strength in wikipedia, I began to wonder what force is responsible for keeping the atoms or molecules of something like a rope together. I mean what force would tension on the rope would have to overcome in order to break the rope. Surely, there is some force that is the cause for the dense packing of the atoms of molecules of a rope. Please clarify.

Thank you,
Karim
 
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Just wanted to add a note. If the tensile strength of the rope is the force keeping the atoms/molecules together, what is the cause behind this force?
 
Molecules are not symmetric. Some parts of molecules are positively charged, other parts are negatively charged. These oppositely charged parts attract each other.

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The force between atoms is generally regarded as being due to chemical bonds. The simplest cases to analyze are pure crystals.

In physics terms, the forces are all of electromagnetic origin - they are the electrical forces due to shared electrons.

A detailed accurate explanation of tensile strength unfortunately requires a quantum mechanical treatment

I believe I've read that it can be shown that the virial theorem limits or prohibits arrangements of strictly classical charges from having a tensile strength, but I couldn't find a reference.
 

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