What is the Actual Theory of Electricity?

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The discussion centers around the concept of electricity, specifically contrasting what is referred to as "conventional theory" and "actual theory." Participants explore the definitions and implications of these theories, including the movement of electrons and the nature of electrical current. The conversation touches on educational perspectives and interpretations of electrical flow.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions a distinction between "conventional theory," which involves electrons moving, and "actual theory," which suggests electrons do not move in the same way.
  • Another participant proposes that the term "conventional current" may be relevant, indicating a flow of charge from positive to negative.
  • A participant reflects on their high school education, noting that they were taught that current flows from negative to positive, suggesting a potential misunderstanding of the concepts involved.
  • One participant suggests that electrical current is not merely the movement of electrons but involves charges moving from atom to atom, highlighting the difference between electron flow and the speed of current transmission.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the terms "conventional theory" and "actual theory," indicating that there is no consensus on these definitions or their implications. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of electrical current and the movement of electrons.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the definitions provided, as participants do not clarify the assumptions underlying the terms "conventional theory" and "actual theory." The discussion also reflects a dependence on educational experiences that may vary significantly.

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Ok, so i was talking to my friend about life, the universe and everything, and the conversation swung to the 'dumbing down' of school, when he told me that there are two theories of electricity. Conventional theory, which they teach you in high-school, invilving electrons moving, and Actual theory, involving electrons not moving. Now, i looked at an old test paper from a science GCSE, and at front it did say "Use Conventional theory of electricity". Now, i was wondering, what does 'actual theory' state? Are their any websites you can point me to that explains this?

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Tom
 
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Welcome to PF, Tom. I've never heard of either of those terms, but I've been out of school for over 30 years. Nice to see that our compliment of Douglas Adams fans is growing. :biggrin:
 
I keep forgetting about that; it's a foreign concept to me because we were taught in high-school Electricity class that it flows from negative to positive. I think that it was Berkeman who tuned me into the positive-negative approach.
 
Welcome to the Forums, Lobe!
It does sound like the old test paper was referring to conventional current or convetional flow (the idea that charge runs from positive to negative). But I tyhink your friend was reffernig to the fact that elcetrical current is not really the result of ellectrns moving from one place to another, but rather the charges of the electrons moving form atom to atom.

You see, the movement of electrons through (for example) a wire in a household circuit is very slow. This is called the "electron flow". But the current itself travels at a much greater speed as charge jumps from one atom to another.
 

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