What is the algebraic function for solving polynomial equations?

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The discussion revolves around finding the algebraic function for solving polynomial equations, specifically focusing on the structure of polynomial equations in terms of the variable \(y\) and its relationship with \(x\). Participants are examining the formulation of polynomial expressions and the implications of their coefficients.

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  • Participants are attempting to express polynomial equations in the form \(P_0(x)y^n + P_1(x)y^{n-1} + \ldots + P_n(x) = 0\) and are discussing the implications of different choices for the coefficients \(P_i(x)\). There are questions about the correctness of assumptions and the relationships between the terms in the equations.

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The discussion is active with participants exploring various formulations of the polynomial equation. Some have suggested specific forms for the coefficients, while others are questioning the choices made and the resulting implications. There is no clear consensus, but multiple interpretations and approaches are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of polynomial expressions and are considering the dependencies between coefficients. There are indications of confusion regarding the selection of coefficients and the structure of the equations being discussed.

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Algebraic Fuction:
$$P_0(x)y^n+P_1(X)y^{n-1}+...+P_{n-1}(x)y+P_n(x)=0$$
##P_i(x)~## are polinomials, ##~P_0(x)\neq 0##

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$$\left( x^{2/3} \right)^3 (1-x)+\left( x^{2/3} \right)^2(x)=x^2-x^3+x^{5/3}$$
Any integer exponent can't cancel the ##~x^{5/3}##
 
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I assume, here is ##y=f(x)##. So what is ##y^3##?
 
$$y=x^{2/3} \rightarrow~y^3=\left( x^{2/3} \right)^3=x^2$$
 
Yes, and now you need to write it ##...=0## to see what ##P_0(x)## and ##P_3(x)## are.
 
$$P_0(x)x^2+x^{\frac{5}{3}}+P_3(x)=0$$
P0 and P3 are dependent on each other, i have to choose one:
$$\Rightarrow~P_0(x)=-\frac{-P_3(x)-x^{5/3}}{x^2}-x^{-\frac{1}{3}}$$
No polinomial will result
 
Why so complicated? It is far, far easier than this. You already have ##y^3-x^2= 0##. All you have to do is to write down the coefficients of ##y^3,y^2,y^1,y^0##.
 
I don't have ##~y^3-x^2= 0##. I assume you use only: ##~\left( x^{2/3} \right)^3 (1-x)=x^2-x^3##, or, maybe you have made a mistake, it's: ##~\left( x^{2/3} \right)^3 (1-x)=y^3-x^3##
The coefficient of y3 is, as i chose: ##~(1-x)##
$$(1-x)y^3+P_1(x)y^2+P_2(x)y-x^3=0$$
Is it the equation? i arbitrarily chose 3d degree and the coefficient P0=1-x
 
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Karol said:
I don't have ##~y^3-x^2= 0##. I assume you use only: ##~\left( x^{2/3} \right)^3 (1-x)=x^2-x^3##, or, maybe you have made a mistake, it's: ##~\left( x^{2/3} \right)^3 (1-x)=y^3-x^3##
The coefficient of y3 is, as i chose: ##~(1-x)##
$$(1-x)y^3+P_1(x)y^2+P_2(x)y-x^3=0$$
Is it the equation? i arbitrarily chose 3d degree and the coefficient P0=1-x
Why did you choose ##1-x##? Why not just ##1##?
 
Karol said:
I don't have ##y^3-x^2= 0##.
What about:
Karol said:
##y^3=(x^{2/3})^3=x^2##
You only have to compare ##y^3-x^2= 0## with ##P_0(x)y^3+P_1(x)y^2+P_2(x)y+P_3(x)=0##.
Now what are the choices for the ##P_i##?
 
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$$1\cdot y^3+0\cdot y^2+0\cdot y-x^2=0$$
 
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