A What is the Bell-like Inequality in Classical Physics?

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The discussion centers on the Bell-like inequality in classical physics, particularly in relation to the GHZ experiment, which demonstrates the violation of local realism. It is noted that while local hidden variable theories predict consistent outcomes for all three entangled photons, quantum mechanics predicts differing results, highlighting the fundamental differences between the two theories. The GHZ state is characterized as producing the same outputs only along a specific direction, and the discussion emphasizes that outputs can vary with different measurement directions. A suggestion is made to refer to a Nature article for further understanding, but a free alternative on arXiv is also provided for those unable to access the paid version. Overall, the conversation underscores the implications of the GHZ experiment in challenging classical interpretations of physics.
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Hi Pfs
I read in the GHZ experiment article
that classical physics give an inéquality (a Bell like inequality)
Is there also sets of directions where this inequality is maximally violated ?
thanks
 
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Heidi said:
Hi Pfs
I read in the GHZ experiment article
that classical physics give an inéquality (a Bell like inequality)
Is there also sets of directions where this inequality is maximally violated ?
thanks

GHZ is often characterized as an "all or nothing" test. In principle, a single experimental run (of 3 total GHZ entangled photons) is enough to invalidate local realism.

It's a bit difficult to get that from the Wiki article, but here is the related quote they provide:

"For instance, if the polarization of two of the photons are measured and determined to be rotated +45° from horizontal, then local hidden variable theory predicts that the polarization of the third photon will also be +45° from horizontal. However, quantum mechanical theory predicts that it will be −45° from the same axis."
 
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Have we always 3 same outputs ,with a GHZ state, when we measure the same thing on the particles? linear polarization along a same direction, or same circular polarization?
or is GHZ HHH + VVV state on a given direction?
 
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Have we always 3 same outputs ,with a GHZ state, when we measure the same thing on the particles? linear polarization along a same direction, or same circular polarization?
or is GHZ HHH + VVV state on a given direction?
No, we don't always have 3 same outputs with a GHZ state. GHZ state is only HHH + VVV on a given direction. You can just try out a simple transformation to a specific other direction (like L/R instead of H/V) to see this:
(L+R)(L+R)(L+R) + (L-R)(L-R)(L-R) = 2LLL + 2LRR + 2RLR + 2RRL
 
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Have a look at this Nature article. There it's explained in a very understandable way. The nice feature of the GHZ experiment is that it disproves the "local realism" a la EPR not with the violation of Bell inequality but disproving it by demonstrating that a certain observable takes the opposite value of what local realism predicts, of course in accordance with the prediction of QT:

https://www.nature.com/articles/35000514
 
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could you write the formulas of this article (with some comments)
the price of the article is too expensive (32 dollars)
 
Heidi said:
could you write the formulas of this article (with some comments)
the price of the article is too expensive (32 dollars)
Here is the free version:

https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9810035
 
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