Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the Bell-like inequality in classical physics, particularly in the context of the GHZ (Greenberger-Horne-Zeilinger) experiment. Participants explore the implications of this inequality, its violation, and the characteristics of GHZ states in relation to measurements of polarization.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants inquire about the existence of specific directions where the Bell-like inequality is maximally violated.
- One participant notes that the GHZ experiment is characterized as an "all or nothing" test, suggesting that a single experimental run can invalidate local realism.
- There is a question regarding whether GHZ states always yield the same outputs when measuring the same property of the particles, specifically in terms of polarization.
- Another participant asserts that GHZ states are only HHH + VVV along a given direction and provides a transformation example to illustrate this point.
- A participant references a Nature article that explains how the GHZ experiment disproves local realism by demonstrating observable outcomes that contradict local hidden variable predictions.
- Some participants express interest in obtaining the formulas from the referenced article, citing the cost as a barrier to access.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the outputs of GHZ states and the implications of the Bell-like inequality. There is no consensus on the specifics of the inequality's violation or the characteristics of GHZ states.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include the dependence on definitions of polarization and the specific conditions under which the GHZ states are measured. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical details or assumptions involved in the claims made.