What Is the Best Type of Motor for an Air Compressor?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the best type of motor for driving an air compressor, specifically an L2.4/10 air screw compressor used in locomotives for braking systems. Participants explore various factors influencing motor selection, including load requirements, operational conditions, and potential solutions to issues encountered with the current setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks about the best motor type for an air compressor without providing specific details about the compressor itself.
  • Another participant notes the lack of information makes it difficult to provide a useful answer.
  • A participant describes the specific air compressor model and its application in locomotives, indicating it is driven by a DC series motor with direct start.
  • Concerns are raised about the motor overheating due to frequent starts and stops as the air reservoir pressure decreases.
  • There is a suggestion to contact the compressor manufacturer for guidance, but a participant reports receiving no response.
  • Questions are posed regarding the required pressure, volume, and duty cycle for the compressor's operation.
  • One participant identifies a potential issue with air leaks in the system, which may contribute to the motor's overheating and frequent starting.
  • Possible solutions are proposed, including fixing leaks, increasing reservoir size, and implementing a solenoid valve to manage pressure more effectively.
  • Another participant inquires about methods to monitor the motor's coil temperature, noting that the existing temperature sensor is not positioned to measure the motor's coils directly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various concerns and suggestions regarding the motor's performance and operational issues, but no consensus is reached on the best motor type or definitive solutions to the problems presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of motor starting conditions, air system leaks, and lubrication concerns without resolving the technical details or assumptions involved in their claims.

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what is the best type of motor to drive an air comporessor?

And when can i say zis motor is best for zis load?
 
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You have given no information about the compressor
so its pretty impossible to give you a useful answer

cheers
Dave
 
ok dave the air comporessor is:
L2.4/10 Air screw comporessor we use it in locomotive for braking the system consist of to air comporessor for more informition see zis thread: dc motor starter we discuss zis problem in detail

Thanx again dave
 
Contact the compressor manufacturer and ask them.
 
they not reply!
 
Required pressure and volume?
Duty cycle?
 
L2.4/10 locomotive air comporessor

we have an air comporessor driven by dc series motor direct start the system work and stop many times as the air decrease in the main resirvoir , thus the motor temperature get more hot‏ ‏.

as an electirical engineer i want to protect the motor starting by add soft starter to it
But the male and female screw lubricating oil depend up on the delivered compressed air which splashing the oil over there
And when i add the starter the speed at starting period is less than 1500rpm and the air decrease the starting period may be afew second
Is this affect on the lubricating of male and female of the comporessor
 
Air braking problem:

L2.4/10 air screw comporessor
Driven by dc series motor
direct start


I guess i found the source of the problem as there is a leakage in the air system
The motor work, the resirvoir pressure become 900Mpa , and the pressure switch open the circuit
But as there is leakage in the air system , the air in the resirvoir decrease , when the air became 750Mpa the pressure switch close and the motor start again , so this procedure make the motor always works with huge starting current , thus the motor's coils became more hot and burn ,

there is another reason , the two air resirvoirs are standing near front of the system, take into account the air drier system not working, and when you drain them the humidity increase and affect the performance of the motor,

Am i true?

The question now is there any method to monitor the motor's coil temperature?

Note:

We have tempratue sensor but it been inserted in side the lubricating oil of the male and female screw not the motor's coils
 
I see three possible solutions.
Fix the leaks and increase the size of the reservoirs to reduce the number of motor starts.
Fit a dump solenoid valve set to open at 850Mpa and shut at 800Mpa so that the compressor runs continually so it won't pull the starting current.
Fit a NR valve at the reservoir entrance and a dump valve at the compressor discharge start the compressor with the dump valve open and when it is up to speed close the dump.
 
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thanx jobrag for ur great help
 

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