What is the Current and Future Job Market for PhD Physicists in the US?

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The discussion centers on the current and future job market for PhD physicists in the United States, exploring employment opportunities in both academia and industry. Participants examine trends, demand for physicists, and potential career paths over the next 5-10 years.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the job market for physicists is expected to be competitive, with a particular interest in the demand for physicists in academia and industry.
  • One participant suggests that becoming a college professor is a viable option, though they imply that demand may vary.
  • Another participant mentions that the retirement of Cold War-era physicists may create new opportunities for younger physicists in the coming years.
  • A participant references AIP statistics to highlight trends in employment and degree conferral, noting that while overall demand may be high, there are concerns about the steady number of physics graduates compared to other fields.
  • Concerns are raised about potential barriers for foreign-born scientists due to visa regulations and restrictions in certain job sectors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of viewpoints regarding the job market, with some optimism about future opportunities due to retirements, while others highlight ongoing competition and potential barriers for certain candidates. No consensus is reached on specific predictions or the overall outlook.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the reliance on historical trends and statistics, which may not fully capture future market dynamics. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the impact of visa regulations on job opportunities for foreign-born physicists.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering a PhD in physics, current PhD candidates, and professionals in academia or industry interested in employment trends for physicists.

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I couldn't find any threads by using the search function on this topic. The US department of labor predicts that the competion for jobs up through 2014 is going to be competitive. Can anyone who currently holds a PhD in physics tell me what the job market is like in academia and in industry. Which industrys hire the highest percentage of physicists in the US and where do you guys think the demand will be for physicist outside of academia in the in the future? Let's say about 5-10 years from now. Also I would like to know, what what kind of physicist has the highest demand in our current market?
 
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you could become a college professor. those are always in demand...sometimes kinda in a way

or try to get a job with jpl/nasa
 
Not a physicist, but I have read that the next 10 or so years will be a good time to get into physics. Basically, during the cold war there was a huge demand for boomers and pre-boomers in the area of physics for research and development and such. The level of demand was met and there was a huge bulge of physicists in those years around which industry formed. Now these cold war era physicists are beginning to retire and expire thus opening up a rich cavity of opportunities for young physicists.

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I like to look at the AIP statistics -- http://www.aip.org/statistics/
There are lots of stats on employment trends over time and in different areas and different degree levels.

Considering undergrad degrees have been pretty steady at ~5k/year, grad degrees increased drastically in the Cold War era to ~1-1.5k/year but has hence remained fairly steady (with some significant dips and a projected increase to about the peak of Cold war production)... I think it bodes well (for "our" employment... not really for our society). The number of university degrees conferred in all fields has increased from the 60's/70's... but the number of physics graduates is about the same? Yikes.

While demand in general will probably be high, US citizens may have some opportunities that foreign-born scientists cannot have... due to both visa regulations and some restrictions on positions in military-industrial-complex work.
 

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