What is the derivative of ln(x)^e ?

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The discussion centers around finding the derivative of the expression ln(x)^e, with participants initially confusing it with an integral problem. Clarification is sought on whether the expression is ln(x^e) or (ln(x))^e, which affects the approach to solving it. The Chain Rule is suggested as a method to tackle the derivative, emphasizing the importance of treating ln(x) as a function. Integral tables are noted as unhelpful for this specific case, as they typically do not cover non-integer powers of ln(x). The thread highlights the need for clear problem definition in calculus to avoid misunderstandings.
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Can't figure it out, here's a screenshot with better typography.
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Is this math homework? or something else?

EDIT: Disregard the following as I thought you were trying to integrate this expression which is very hard to do. I leave the proof to the students of the future.

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Often integral tables can help get an answer but they are acceptable when its a homework assignment. I looked at a few and this integral is not listed. They do show ones where ##ln(x)^n## with n an integer but none with a real number power.

What work have you done to solve this?

One attack that might work is to replace ln(x) with y and ask what is the integral for that and then you could use the function of a function approach to get an answer.
 
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lIllIlIIIl said:
Can't figure it out, here's a screenshot with better typography.
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I can't imagine where that function came from, but the chain rule is your friend!
 
I moved the thread to the homework forums since this is a homework-type problem.
 
Like PeroK said, try describing your function as a composition of other functions . Then apply the Chain Rule.
 
lIllIlIIIl said:
Can't figure it out, here's a screenshot with better typography.
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Your problem is ambiguous, so isn't clear to me.

Is it ##\ln[x^e]## or is it ##(\ln(x))^e##? IOW, are we raising x to the power e or are we raising ##\ln(x)## to the power e?
 
jedishrfu said:
One attack that might work is to replace ln(x) with y and ask what is the integral for that
The problem asks for the derivative, not the integral.
 

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