What is the equation for the period of oscillation for a physical pendulum?

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The problem involves a physical pendulum, specifically a meter stick pivoted at a point offset from its center of mass. The objective is to determine the distance from the center of mass to the pivot point, given the period of oscillation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for the period of oscillation but expresses confusion regarding their calculations for the distance d. Some participants question the accuracy of the equations used, particularly the moment of inertia and the interpretation of variables in the period equation.

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There is a mix of attempts to clarify the equations involved, with one participant providing an alternative approach to the moment of inertia and suggesting that the original poster reconsider the definition of h in the context of the problem. Some participants express progress after receiving clarification, while others continue to explore the problem without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are discussing the implications of the parallel axis theorem and the correct application of the moment of inertia for the physical pendulum setup. There is a noted confusion regarding the definitions and roles of various parameters in the equations presented.

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Homework Statement


A physical pendulum consists of a meter stick that is pivoted at a small hole drilled through the stick a distance d from the 50 cm mark. The period of oscillation is 2.5 s. Find d


Homework Equations


T=2PI*sqrt(I/mgh)
I(com)=(1/2)mL^2
parallel axis theorem
I=I(com)+m(L/2-d)^2
L=length of stick
h=L/2=center of mass

The Attempt at a Solution


so T=2.5 s
center of mass = .50 m
I=(1/2)mL^2 + m*(L/2-d)^2
then plug T, I, and h in for the equation
T=2PI*sqrt(I/mgh)
2.5 s=2PI*sqrt((3L^2/4-2Ld+d^2)/(gL/2))
however when I solve for d I do not get 5.6 cm..anyone see my mistake?
 
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I just spent another 30 minutes working on the problem...and no luck :(
 
I think your original 'relevant equations' are wrong.
The moment of inertia of a stick through its center of mass of total length L is: (mL^2)/12
Combining this with the parallel axis theorem, you should get through the point d cm from its center of mass:

I = (mL^2)/12 + md^2

Note that h in the period equation is actually d. It represents the distance from the center of mass. So if you actually swing it through the center of mass, guess what? It swings forever and if you divide by h approaching 0, the answer is a period approaching infinity.

Hope that helps.
 
ah! that helps a lot. Thank you so much. When I changed it to (1/12)mL^2 and used d instead it worked out great. I was forgetting about where it was rotating. Once again, thanks so much!
 
You're welcome ^_^
 
Ya u got it, but in case u wonder how 2 get the equation for the period, here is my quick derivation:

\Sigma\tau=I*\ddot{\theta}=r\timesF=
-d*m*g*sin(\theta)=-d*m*g*\theta we can approximate sin(theta) ~ theta for small theta

=>-d*m*g*\theta - I*\ddot{\theta} = 0

Solving Differential Equations

w = sqrt(d*m*g / I)

T = 2*pi/lamba =2*pi*sqrt(I / d*m*g)
 

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