What is the Force of Contact Between Two Blocks on a Frictionless Table?

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The problem involves two blocks in contact on a frictionless table, with a horizontal force applied to one of the blocks. The objective is to determine the force of contact between the two blocks, given their masses and the applied force.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's laws to derive equations for the forces acting on each block. There is an exploration of the relationship between the forces acting on the blocks and the acceleration of the system.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the relationships between the forces, suggesting that the forces exerted by the blocks on each other are equal and opposite. There is a mix of attempts to derive the equations and confirm the calculations, with at least one participant seeking validation of their result.

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Participants note that the textbook does not provide the answer, which may contribute to the uncertainty in confirming the calculations. There is also a mention of the need to clarify the roles of the forces acting on each block.

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Homework Statement



Two blocks are in contact on a frictionless table. A horizontol force is applied to one block as shown in Fig 7. If m1 = 2.0 kg, m2 = 1.0 kg, and |F|applied = 3N, find the force of contact between two blocks.

----> --------
| A | B |

note: the height of B is a little smaller.
A= m1
B = m2.
The arrow is the force applied.



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The Attempt at a Solution


Fnet(1) = Fapp - Fm2
-> Fapp = m1a + Fm2 (eqn 1)

Fnet(2) = Fapp + Fm1
Fapp = m2a - Fm1. (eqn 2)

Fm2 + Fm1 = a(m2-m1)
 
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affans said:

The Attempt at a Solution


Fnet(1) = Fapp - Fm2
-> Fapp = m1a + Fm2 (eqn 1)

Good.

Fnet(2) = Fapp + Fm1

No. Fapp doesn't act on block 2. Only Fm1 acts on block 2.

Also, you don't need 3 variables. Newton's 3rd law says that the action of block 1 on block 2 is equal and opposite to the reaction of block 2 on block 1. So Fm1 and Fm2 have the same magnitude, but opposite directions. So just call their common magnitude F. Then you have 2 equations in 2 unknowns. (F and a).
 
From post 1 EQN1: Fapp = m1(a) + Fm2
EQN2: m2(a) = Fm1
but Fm1 = Fm2 (action rxn) = F
therefore

Fapp = m1(a) + m2(b)
3 = a(2 + 1)
a = 1 m/s^2

therefore back to EQN 1
Fapp = m1(a) + F
3 = (2)(1) + F
F = 1N?

Can anyone confirm this answer?
thanks (its not in the back of the textbook)
 
That's what I got too.
 

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