What is the Galois group of x^4+1 over Q when e^ipi/4 is adjoined?

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The discussion revolves around determining the Galois group of the polynomial x^4 + 1 over the rational numbers Q when the element e^(iπ/4) is adjoined. Participants explore the implications of this extension and the relationships between the roots of the polynomial.

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  • Participants discuss the splitting of the polynomial and the nature of the roots when e^(iπ/4) is included. There is an exploration of the structure of the Galois group, with some questioning the assumption that it is S4 due to the relationships between the roots. Others suggest that the Galois group may actually be the Klein four-group, citing the need for elements of order 2.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants presenting differing views on the structure of the Galois group. Some have offered insights into the properties of the roots and the implications for the Galois group, while others are still grappling with the underlying assumptions and logic.

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There is a noted complexity in the relationships between the roots, and participants are considering the implications of algebraic independence and the degree of the extension. The discussion reflects a mix of mathematical reasoning and conceptual exploration without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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This thing splits if we adjoin e^ipi/4.
Let [tex]\zeta[/tex]=e^ipi/4 =[tex]\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}[/tex]+[tex]\frac{i\sqrt{2}}{2}[/tex]
so x4+1=

(x-[tex]\zeta[/tex])(x-[tex]\zeta[/tex]2)(x-[tex]\zeta[/tex]3)(x-[tex]\zeta[/tex]4).

Then I want to permute these roots so the Galois group is just S4.

But, Q([tex]\zeta[/tex])=Q(i,[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]) and [Q(i,[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]):Q]=4 (degree)

I have the theorem that Galois group [tex]\leq[/tex] degree of splitting field over base field.

Since |S4|=24 something is wrong, but what I can not find what is wrong with the logic.
 
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This isn't really in my field of expertise, but zeta, zeta^2, zeta^3 and zeta^4 aren't algebraically independent over the rationals, now are they? If you choose for example to map zeta->zeta^2, you really don't have any choices about how to map the other roots. The symmetry group of the automorphisms is not S4. I think that's the answer. Do you agree?
 
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The Galois group is actually [tex]\mathbf{V}[/tex], the Klein four-group. You know that the Galois group has to have order 4, since the extension [tex]\mathbb{Q}(\zeta)[/tex] is Galois over [tex]\mathbb{Q}[/tex]. There are only two isomorphism types for groups of order four, i.e., the Klein four-group and the cyclic group of order four. You can distinguish between them by the fact that [tex]\mathbf{V}[/tex] has two elements of order 2, while [tex]C_4[/tex] only has one. Thus, all you need to do is construct two elements of the Galois group having order 2. In any extension involving complex numbers, you know that complex conjugation is an automorphism of order two. To get another one, invoke the theorem that says that the Galois group acts transitively on the roots of any irreducible polynomial.

Edit: [tex]\mathbf{V}[/tex] actually has three elements of order 2. Constructing two of them still suffices, however, since [tex]C_4[/tex] only has one.
 
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Nice, conjugate, that makes sense. I ruled out Klein group to quickly!
 

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