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if i connect an electric current of 30 volts to argon gas to transform it to plasma, what is the average kinetic energy of the argon particles in that plasma?
The discussion revolves around the kinetic energy of particles in plasma, specifically in the context of transforming argon gas into plasma using electricity. Participants explore the necessary conditions, including voltage and pressure, for achieving this transformation, as well as the implications for particle energy in the resulting plasma.
Participants express differing views on the conditions necessary for creating plasma from argon gas, particularly regarding voltage requirements and the effects of pressure. There is no consensus on the specific methods or feasibility of achieving plasma at high pressures.
Participants discuss the challenges of creating plasma, including the need for specific voltage levels and the implications of pressure on plasma formation. The conversation highlights the complexity of the topic and the various factors that influence plasma generation.
[PLAIN]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen's_law said:For[/PLAIN] argon, the minimum arc voltage is 137 V at a larger 12 µm.
then how to make plasma with argon gas, i saw a couple of videos on the internet. could you please explain to me how this happens and how to do it?anorlunda said:Current is not measured in volts.
30 volts is not enough.Creating a gap of only 12 µm is not easy. You also need a vacuum.
The energy of the particles in the plasma depends on the distance from the arc. Energy considerations are also discussed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paschen's_law
You could do a much better job in phrasing your question. The usefulness of answers here is proportional to the quality of the question.
It can exist, but only at completely unreasonable temperatures (evaporating the container walls).ahmed11 said:and also can a container of argon gas at 10,000 psi be converted to plasma with electricity or plasma can't exist at high pressure? assuming the container can hold it and how much electricity should be applied to convert that much argon to plasma if possible?
i just couldn't understand why only plasmas exist in low pressure gases and why can't they be applied to a higher situation, i thought that plasma have limitation with pressure of the gas and the voltage passing through it but thanks to you i get it nowmfb said:In general: a higher voltage can work.
It can exist, but only at completely unreasonable temperatures (evaporating the container walls).
Don't ask x-y questions please.
What do you actually want to do? Why do you want a high-pressure argon plasma?