What is the logarithmic equation for 3e3y-6 = 2x2-1?

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The discussion focuses on solving the logarithmic equation 3e^(3y-6) = 2x^2 - 1. Participants clarify the correct application of logarithmic properties, emphasizing that the logarithm of a product is the sum of the logarithms, and caution against misplacing parentheses. The correct transformation leads to the equation 3y - 6 = ln((2x^2 - 1)/3), which simplifies to y = (1/3)ln((2x^2 - 1)/3) + 2. Additionally, there is a new question about solving another logarithmic equation, with participants discussing the proper steps for isolating y. The conversation highlights the importance of accuracy in logarithmic manipulations.
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3e3y-6 = 2x2-1
ln3e3y-6=ln2x2-lne
ln3e3y-6=ln2x2/lne
3e3y-6=2x2/e
3e3y-6*e=2x2
e3y-6=(2/3)x2
3y-6=ln((2/3)x2)
3y=ln((2/3)x2)+6
y=(1/3)ln((2/3)x2)+2

I wonder the answer is correct, the question is asking about the equation of y.
 
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fr33pl4gu3 said:
3e3y-6 = 2x2-1
ln3e3y-6=ln2x2-1
Be carefule with parentheses: you mean ln3e3y-6=ln(2x2-1) because you are taking the log of the entire right side: 2x2- 1.

ln3e3y-6=ln2x2-lne
You see? Now you are treating that "-1" as if it were outside the logarithm: it isn't.

ln3e3y-6=ln2x2/lne
And even if it were, "ln a- ln b" is NOT "ln a/ln b" it is ln(a/b)

3e3y-6=2x2/e
If you reverse what you did in the first step you should just come back to the first step! You don't because you have done it wrong.
ln(3e3y- 6)= ln(e3y- 6)+ ln 3= 3y- 6+ ln 3
3y- 6+ ln 3= ln(2x2- 1)

Solve that for y.

3e3y-6*e=2x2
e3y-6=(2/3)x2
3y-6=ln((2/3)x2)
3y=ln((2/3)x2)+6
y=(1/3)ln((2/3)x2)+2

I wonder the answer is correct, the question is asking about the equation of y.
No, make the corrections I suggested.
 


ln(3e3y- 6)= ln(e3y- 6)+ ln 3= 3y- 6+ ln 3
3y- 6+ ln 3= ln(2x2- 1)
3y-6 = ln((2x2-1)/3)
3y = ln ((2x2-1)/3) + 6
y=(1/3)ln((2x2-1)/3)+2
 


Yes, that's what I got
 


New Question:

log8(9y + 14) = 6x6-11
9y+14 = 86x6-11

The next step is it by entering this step??
 


If you're solving for y again then yes that is correct as a next step.
 


the next 2 step will be:

ln 9y + 14 = ln86x6-11
ln 9y + 14 = 6x6-11 ln8
 


log8(9y + 14) = 6x6-11
9y+14 = 86x6-11
ln (9y + 14) = ln86x6-11
ln (9y + 14) = (6x6-11) ln8
ln 9y + ln 14 = (6x6-11)ln8
ln9y=(6x6-11)ln8 - ln 14
y=((6x6-11)ln8 - ln 14)/ln9

Solve the equation of y, i wonder if this is right?
 


fr33pl4gu3 said:
ln(3e3y- 6)= ln(e3y- 6)+ ln 3= 3y- 6+ ln 3
This is NOT the equation you gave before! Before it was ln(3e3y- 6)

3y- 6+ ln 3= ln(2x2- 1)
And if the "-6" was NOT in the exponent this is wrong. Did you mean "ln(3e3y- 6"?

3y-6 = ln((2x2-1)/3)
3y = ln ((2x2-1)/3) + 6
y=(1/3)ln((2x2-1)/3)+2
 
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Hi fr33pl4gu3!
fr33pl4gu3 said:
ln (9y + 14) = (6x6-11) ln8
ln 9y + ln 14 = (6x6-11)ln8

No … ln (9y + 14) is not the same as ln 9y + ln 14, is it? :wink:

btw you should learn the very useful formula lnab = lnb/lna :smile:
 
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