What is the Longest Molecule Ever Discovered?

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The discussion centers around identifying the longest molecule and the criteria that define a molecule. Participants explore various lengths, from one meter for DNA and polyethylene to theoretical lengths of 12,700 km related to covalent bonds in the Earth's crust. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding what constitutes a molecule, highlighting that carbohydrates, proteins, lipids, and nucleic acids are considered large molecules, with carbohydrates and nucleic acids reaching lengths of about two meters. The distinction between macromolecules and micromolecules is noted, with proteins classified as macromolecules and lipids as micromolecules. The potential for creating long polymers is debated, with some suggesting that thermodynamic fluctuations may impose practical limits. The discussion also touches on whether certain structures, like degenerate stars or crystalline solids, can be classified as molecules, with some participants arguing that polymers should not be considered molecules at all. The conversation reflects a mix of scientific inquiry and philosophical considerations regarding molecular definitions.
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Longest DNA, nanotube, polymer, silk, nylon, glass, wire
What is the longest molecule? Are we talking about of order of magnitude:
  • 1 metre, eg. DNA, carbon nanotube, polyethylene (UHMWPE)?
  • 1 kilometre, eg. silk strand, monofilament nylon?
  • 100 to 1,000 km, eg. steel wire for suspension bridge, copper wire, optical glass fibre?
  • 12,700 km, covalent bonding connecting the whole of the Earth's crust?
 
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Why do you think things you listed count as molecules? What is a molecule?
 
Carbohydrates, Proteins, Lipids, Nucleic acid are Four Large Molecules
 
Seconding Borek's question: you should first learn what defines a molecule. That will make the answer to your quiz quite simple.
 
naresh123 said:
Carbohydrates, Proteins, Lipids, Nucleic acid are Four Large Molecules
Carbohydrates and nucleic acids can each by up to of order two metres long. Aren't proteins and lipids very much smaller?
 
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Aren't proteins and lipids very much smaller?
I think only lipids falls in micromolecules and proteins are macromolecules.
 
I had a professor that said it was the ocean since water is always in the process of taking/borrowing hydrogens. He said that touching a water molecule along the shore here in North America had an effect on a water molecule in Antartica. I always wondered how he would prove something like that...
 
What is the distinction between a crystalline solid (or a metal) and a molecule? There are individual atoms and variously stable agglutinations of atoms: to me the other designations seem arbitrary (and possibly capricious!)
 
An nth-length alcohol or something similar would probably be the longest.
 
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Can't one make certain polymers as long as is desired? Maybe thermodynamic fluctuations produce a practical limit?? Seems like you just add another monomer.
 
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hutchphd said:
Can't one make certain polymers as long as is desired? Maybe thermodynamic fluctuations produce a practical limit?? Seems like you just add another monomer.

That was my understanding. You can just keep stitching carbon atoms on the end in a DNA-Like structure and keep going forever. I wonder if a degenerate star counts as being a molecule? I suppose it has to be pure chemical forces and not gravity holding it together.
 
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