What is the magnitude of the average stopping force?

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems involving forces and motion. The first problem concerns a man dropping from a height and calculating his average acceleration and stopping force upon landing. The second problem involves a landing craft on the moon, analyzing forces during descent and determining weight and acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Participants explore equations of motion to find acceleration and stopping force for the first problem, questioning the initial velocity upon impact. For the second problem, they discuss the relationship between thrust, weight, and acceleration, considering simultaneous equations to solve for unknowns.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance on how to approach the problems, particularly focusing on relevant equations and relationships between forces. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary calculations, but no consensus or complete solutions have been reached.

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Participants note the importance of understanding gravitational effects on the moon and the implications of constant speed versus acceleration in the context of the second problem. There is also mention of needing to refer to textbooks or notes for deeper understanding.

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I cannot solve these two problems and do not know where to start. please help. thanks.

1. A 77 kg man drops to a concrete patio from a window only 0.45 m above the patio. He neglects to bend his knees on landing, taking 2.0 cm to stop.
(a) What is his average acceleration from when his feet first touch the patio to when he stops?

(b) What is the magnitude of the average stopping force?

2. Imagine a landing craft approaching the surface of the moon of a distant planet. If the engine provides an upward force (thrust) of 2910 N, the craft descends at constant speed; if the engine provides only 2200 N, the craft accelerates downward at 0.47 m/s2.
(a) What is the weight of the landing craft in the vicinity of moon's surface?

(b) What is the mass of the craft?

(c) What is the magnitude of the free-fall acceleration near the surface of the moon?
 
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A couple of hints:

for the first problem : use the eqn: 2ax=Vf^2-Vi^2

Note that vf = 0
Just need to compute Vi, the speed at which he strikes the ground. X above is the displacement during deceleration, 0.02m

Second problem: Need to understand that in the first case, he is coasting, and the rocket is providing just enough thrust to offset gravity of moon.

F1-m*g=0 where g is the moon's gravity constant and F1 is the force of the rocket engine

Second case there is acceleration


F2-mg=m*a where a is the acceleration given. Pay attention to signs.

Need to solve these simultaneously--subtracting the top from the bottom eqn seems easy.
 
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thanks but i cannot get the first problem or part b for the second one can you please explain?
 
I'll try but you may need to spend some time looking at your book/notes as well.

For the first: The equation to compute a, the acceleration, is given above.

It simplifies to a(2*d)=v^2 where d is the displacement during which he stops= 2.0cm

The same eqn can be used to compute how fast he is going when he strikes the ground:

here 9.8(2*0.45m) = v^2

since V^2 is common to both equations: set the other quantities as equal and solve for a.


Problem two: If you solve the 2 simultaneous equations, you need to figure out what g is. Note both m and g are unknown, but you have 2 eqns so both can be figured out. As I hinted subtracting the first eqn from the second will get you F2-F1 = m*a and a is given to you. Now go back using that info using either equation to compute g.
 
i got it

thank you
 
great, and you are welcome.
 

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