What Is the Magnitude of the Particle's Angular Momentum?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the magnitude of a particle's angular momentum given its position and velocity vectors. The context is within the realm of classical mechanics, specifically focusing on angular momentum in a three-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between linear motion and angular momentum, with some expressing confusion about the scalar and vector forms of the problem. There are attempts to apply the formula for angular momentum, with questions about how to handle vector components (i, j, k) and the cross product.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the vector definition of angular momentum and the necessity of calculating the cross product of the position and velocity vectors. There is recognition of the frustration experienced by the original poster and others regarding the application of these concepts.

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Participants mention previous attempts to understand the problem through external resources, indicating a struggle with the material and the specific calculations involved. There is a noted distinction between scalar and vector products, with some confusion surrounding the terminology used.

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Homework Statement



The position vector of a 1.0-kg particle is given by r = 4 i + 3 j + 3 k and its velocity by v = 5 i - 2 k. Find the magnitude of the particle's angular momentum in kg.m2/s.

Homework Equations



L=Iω

or

L=mvr

The Attempt at a Solution



This question is a real curve ball because I don't exactly know how to make sense of using this scalar system. I know that the object is moving in a linear path and that I am trying to find the angular momentum in relation to the origin. This means the angular momentum must be the same along the entire path. Thus the angular momentum would be mass*velocity*distance from the path of the particle to the parallel line extending from the origin. Since this problem is in the scalar form I don't really know what to do. I don't want an infraction so if you have any thoughts to help me move along that would be great. I have searched the internet to sources but nothing clarifies it well for me. I used hyperphysics.com which is usually great. Post any links that might help. Thanks.
 
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mrshappy0 said:
Thus the angular momentum would be mass*velocity*distance from the path of the particle to the parallel line extending from the origin.
That's one way of looking at it. Consider the vector definition of angular momentum, since you're given the position and velocity vectors. See: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/amom.html"
 
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So would it just be (4 i + 3 j + 3 k)*(5 i - 2 k)(mass). Completely lost. I am not sure how to deal with the i,j,k.
 
mrshappy0 said:
So would it just be (4 i + 3 j + 3 k)*(5 i - 2 k)(mass). Completely lost. I am not sure how to deal with the i,j,k.
You need the cross product (also called the vector product) of those vectors. The cross product can be defined in terms of unit vectors, as given here: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vvec.html"
 
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I looked at both those pages and every page connected to them hours ago. I can't make sense of them. Super frusterated. Well the first page makes sense but finding the scalar product doesn't make sense.
 
mrshappy0 said:
I looked at both those pages and every page connected to them hours ago. I can't make sense of them. Super frusterated. Well the first page makes sense but finding the scalar product doesn't make sense.
You're not finding the scalar product here. (But the scalar product is the easy one, so I suspect you meant the vector product.)

Here's yet another presentation of the recipe for computing the cross product using unit vectors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_product#Coordinate_notation"

Just follow the prescription and see what happens.
 
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I got -5i+23j-k for r x v. Not sure where I go from here.
 
mrshappy0 said:
I got -5i+23j-k for r x v. Not sure where I go from here.
Double check that calculation.

Once you get the correct vector, find its magnitude just like any other vector.
 

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