What Is the Maximum Amplitude of Harmonic Motion Without Slippage?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two blocks and a spring on a frictionless surface, focusing on determining the maximum amplitude of harmonic motion without slippage between the blocks. The subject area includes concepts of static friction, harmonic motion, and forces acting on the blocks.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the normal force and the spring force, questioning how to ensure that the force of static friction is not exceeded. There are attempts to calculate the maximum amplitude based on forces acting on the blocks and the spring.

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Some participants have provided calculations and insights into the forces involved, while others are questioning the assumptions about the accelerations of the blocks and the relationship between the spring force and the combined mass. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the correct approach or solution.

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Participants are working under the constraint that slippage must be avoided, and they are examining the limits imposed by static friction. The calculations presented indicate a potential misunderstanding or misapplication of the forces involved.

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Two blocks (m = 0.468 kg and M = 2.41 kg) and a spring (k = 24.1 N/m) are arranged on a horizontal, frictionless surface. Block m is situated on top of block M. (Spring attached to block M) The coefficient of static friction between the two blocks is 0.873. What is the maximum possible amplitude of simple harmonic motion of the spring/blocks system if no slippage is to occur between the blocks?

Im not too sure what to do with this problem, I think i have to match up the normal force on the top block with the force of the spring on the bottom. but I am not sure.
 
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In order for the large block (mass M) to move without slippage of the small block (mass m), the acceleration (a) of the small block must be such that the force F=ma, must not exceed [itex]\mu[/itex]mg.

The spring imposes a force on (M+m), and the spring force Fspring[/sup] = kx.
 
i did that and i got .166 meters. umg = .873*9.81*.468 = 4.008 N
F(spring) = kx
4.008 = 24.1 * x
x = .166 meters.

and this is not right. What am i doing wrong?
 
The block on top, m, are also experiencing SHM. The force that causes it to experience SHM is the frictional force. Since this force has an upper limit it puts a limit on the maximum acceleration the top block can experience. Are the acceleration of the two blocks the same during the motion?
 
F(spring) = kx
4.008 = 24.1 * x
The spring force must be applied to the combined mass (m+M) = 0.468+2.41 kg, but one needs the acceleration of the combined mass to determine F, from which one applies F = kx or x = F/k.

The problem then is - what is the acceleration of the combined blocks, knowing that the small block and large block accelerate together?
 

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