What is the new angular speed of the merry-go-round after a child hops on?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the new angular speed of a merry-go-round after a child hops on. The initial parameters include a radius of 2.00m, a moment of inertia of 250 kg·m², and an initial rotation speed of 10 rpm. The user attempts to solve the problem using torque equations but realizes their answer is incorrect. They are advised to use the conservation of angular momentum instead, as external torque is not present in this scenario. Additionally, the difference between the torque equations τ = rF and τ = Iα is clarified, emphasizing that the former describes how torque is generated while the latter describes its effect on angular acceleration.
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Homework Statement


A playground merry-go-round of radius R=2.00m has a moment of intertia I=250kg.m^2 and is rotating at 10 rev/min (rpm) about a frictionless vertical axle. Facing the axle, a 25.0kg child hops onto the merry-go-round from the ground and manages to sit down on its edge. What is the new angular speed of the merry-go-round?

Homework Equations


\tau=rF

\tau=I\alpha

\omega final = \omega initial + \alpha t

The Attempt at a Solution


I have done this, however my answer is incorrect.

\tau=rF

\tau=2*25a

\tau=50a

\tau=Im^2

50a=250\alpha

v=\frac{x}{t}

1.047=\frac{2}{t}

t=2.094

so...
50*{\omega}{t}=250\alpha

50*\frac{1.047}{2.094}=250\alpha

\alpha=\frac{25}{250}

\alpha=0.1

now to find the final angular speed
\omega final = \omega initial + \alpha t

\omega final = 1.047 + 0.1*2.094

\omega final = 1.2564rad/s

Also a quick question can someone explain to me what is the difference between the
\tau=rF & \tau=I\alpha equations??
I'm not quite sure if this is correct; Is the \tau=rF normally used for small rotating mass, and \tau=I\alpha is used for a large rotating body.

P.S
 
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Hi Paymemoney! :smile:

(have a tau: τ and an omega: ω and an alpha: α and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
Paymemoney said:
A playground merry-go-round of radius R=2.00m has a moment of intertia I=250kg.m^2 and is rotating at 10 rev/min (rpm) about a frictionless vertical axle. Facing the axle, a 25.0kg child hops onto the merry-go-round from the ground and manages to sit down on its edge. What is the new angular speed of the merry-go-round?

Homework Equations


\tau=rF …

No … "facing the axle" mans that there is no external torque …

start again, using only conservation of angular momentum. :smile:
Also a quick question can someone explain to me what is the difference between the
\tau=rF & \tau=I\alpha equations??
I'm not quite sure if this is correct; Is the \tau=rF normally used for small rotating mass, and \tau=I\alpha is used for a large rotating body.

τ = r x F tells you how much the torque is

τ = Iα tells you what the torque does :wink:

(and so r x F = Iα tells you what the force does)
 
When you are talking about what the torque does, do you mean if it slowing down or accelerating?
 
more than that …

i mean that, just as (linear) force F tells you the (linear) acceleration a (of a body with mass m),

torque τ tells you the angular acceleration α (of a body with moment of inertia I)

… they both tell you exactly what the force or torque does to the body :smile:
 
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