What is the Parametric Expression for the Lemniscate of Bernoulli?

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The lemniscate of Bernoulli is the curve that is the locus of points the product of whose distances from two fixed centres (called the foci) a distance of 2c apart is the cosntant [tex][c^2[/tex]. If the foci have Cartesian coordinates [tex](\pmc, 0)[/tex] the Cartesian equation of the lemniscate is

[tex]([x-c]^2 + y^2)([x + c]^2 + y^2) = c^4[/tex]​

or

[tex](x^2 + y^2)^2 = 2c^2(x^2 - y^2).[/tex]​

a) Show that the lemniscate of Bernoulli may be expressed parametrically by

[tex]x(t) = \sqrt{2c}\frac{\cost}{1 + \sin^2t}[/tex], [tex]y(t) = \sqrt{2c}\frac{costsint}{1 + sin^2t}[/tex]​

where [tex]t \epsilon[-\pi, \pi).[/tex] For t out of this interval the curve repeats on itself.)
 
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jamesbob said:
The lemniscate of Bernoulli is the curve that is the locus of points the product of whose distances from two fixed centres (called the foci) a distance of 2c apart is the cosntant [tex][c^2[/tex]. If the foci have Cartesian coordinates [tex](\pm c, 0)[/tex] the Cartesian equation of the lemniscate is

[tex]([x-c]^2 + y^2)([x + c]^2 + y^2) = c^4[/tex]​

or

[tex](x^2 + y^2)^2 = 2c^2(x^2 - y^2).[/tex]​

a) Show that the lemniscate of Bernoulli may be expressed parametrically by

[tex]x(t) = \sqrt{2}c \frac{\cos t}{1 + \sin^2t}[/tex], [tex]y(t) = \sqrt{2}c\frac{\cos t \sin t}{1 + sin^2t}[/tex]​

where [tex]t \in[-\pi, \pi).[/tex] For t out of this interval the curve repeats on itself.)

note that the c is no longer under the square root
 
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a) Just plug-in x=x(t) and y=y(t) into either of the given equations and show that it reduces to an identity and note that x(t) and y(t) are periodic functions, having as a funamental period [tex]t \in [-\pi, \pi).[/tex]. BTW, use \in rather than \epsilon for "element of".
 
Thanks very much for fixing my post and for your help! So i just plug

[tex]x = \sqrt{2c}\frac{cost}{1 + \sin^2t} and y = \sqrt{2c}\frac{costsint}{1 + sin^2t}[/tex] into the 2 equations?
 
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That's right, as benorin posted. Also remember about the rt(2c). It should be rt(2)*c.

BTW, if you'ld like a challenge, try and find the slope of the curve at the origin :smile:
 
Just substituting in doesn't prove it though. It shows that any point of the form (x(t), y(t)) is on the lemniscate--it doesn't show that every point on the lemniscate is of the form (x(t), y(t)).

I'm not sure what the simplest way to show the latter is. One way I can think of is expanding out your second formula for the lemniscate, which will give you a quadratic equation in x^2. Solve that equation for x^2 and from that find how many solutions there are for a given y (which is the number of values of x that are possible for a given y). Then show that for a given y(t), the parametric equation yields the same number of x(t) as there are solutions x for that y.
 
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Ok I'm still stuck on this and get the feeling I am doing something silly and overcomplicated. I tried fitting those x and y values to the first equation and got:

[tex]([\sqrt{2}c\frac{cost}{1 + sin^2t} - c]^2 + \sqrt{2}c\frac{costsint}{1 + sin^2t}) \times ([\sqrt{2}c\frac{cost}{1 + sin^2t} + c]^2 + \sqrt{2}c\frac{costsint}{1 + sin^2t})[/tex]

So thismultiplies to:

[tex](2c^2\frac{\cos^2t}{1 + \sin^2t} - c^2 + 2c^2\frac{\cos^2t\sin^2t}{(1 + sin^2t)^2}) \times (2c^2\frac{\cos^2t}{(1 + \sin^2t)^2} + c^2 + 2c^2\frac{\cos^2t\sin^2t}{(1 + sin^2t)^2})[/tex]

I have to run, ill continue posting my calculations later, tho I am sure its wrong already.
 
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Argh why is my latex code not working. There should be cos's and sin's on the top line of the first part
 
If you use \cos or \sin, either leave a space after them and before the argument or use {} around the argument, for example: \cos t = [tex]\cos t[/tex], but \cost = [tex]\cost[/tex]
 
Try the easier equation...

Let us substitute

[tex]x(t) = \sqrt{2}c \frac{\cos t}{1 + \sin^2t}[/tex]

[tex]y(t) = \sqrt{2}c\frac{\cos t \sin t}{1 + sin^2t}[/tex]

into

[tex](x^2 + y^2)^2 = 2c^2(x^2 - y^2)[/tex]

to get


[tex]\left[\left( \sqrt{2}c \frac{\cos t}{1 + \sin^2t}\right) ^2 + \left( \sqrt{2}c\frac{\cos t \sin t}{1 + sin^2t}\right) ^2 \right] ^2 = 2c^2\left[\left( \sqrt{2}c \frac{\cos t}{1 + \sin^2t}\right) ^2 - \left( \sqrt{2}c\frac{\cos t \sin t}{1 + sin^2t}\right) ^2 \right][/tex]

now simplify to get something like 0=0 :smile:
 
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Im being really dumb here and just cannot simplify this. So far i get:

[tex]4c^4\frac{\cos^4 t}{(1 + \sin^2 t)^4} + 4c^4\frac{\cos^4 t\sin^2 t}{(1 + sin^2 t)^4} + 4c^4\frac{\cos^4 t\sin^4 t}{(1 + sin^2 t)^4} = 4c^4(\frac{cos^2 t}{(1 + \sin^2 t)^2} - \frac{\cos^4 t\sin^2 t}{(1 +sin^2 t)^2})[/tex]

This somehow equates

[tex]\frac{\cos^4 t}{(1 + \sin^2 t)^4} + \frac{\cos^4 t\sin^2 t}{(1 + sin^2 t)^4} + \frac{\cos^4 t\sin^4 t}{(1 + sin^2 t)^4} = \frac{cos^2 t}{(1 + \sin^2 t)^2} - \frac{\cos^4 t\sin^2 t}{(1 +sin^2 t)^2} ?[/tex]
 
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ok i finally got this, il code it later when i get a chance, but thanks for your help