What Is the Phase Difference at the Tuning Fork in a Hallway Sound Experiment?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the phase difference between sound waves generated by a tuning fork in a hallway setup. The tuning fork has a frequency of 246 Hz, and the sound waves travel in opposite directions, reflecting off the walls of a 47.0 m long hallway. The tuning fork is positioned 14.0 m from one end, and the speed of sound in air is given as 343 m/s.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of wavelength and path difference, questioning the accuracy of their results and the method of converting phase difference into degrees. There is also a focus on the implications of rounding errors and the interpretation of phase difference in terms of whole wavelengths.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the calculations and have identified potential errors in their reasoning. There is an ongoing exploration of the modulo conversion process related to phase differences, with participants seeking clarification on this concept.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of significant figures in their calculations and the periodic nature of phase differences in relation to the sine and cosine functions.

lizzyb
Messages
167
Reaction score
0
A tuning fork generates sound waves with a frequency of 246 Hz. The waves travel in opposite directions along a hallway, are reflected by end walls, and return. The hallway is 47.0 m long, and the tuning fork is located 14.0 m from one end. What is the phase difference between the reflected waves when they meet at the tuning fork? The speed of sound in air is 343 m/s.

We have the equation: \Delta r = \frac{\phi}{2 \pi} \lambda so it seems that all we need to do is determine phi since we can easily determine delta r and lambda. But the answer that I come up with is different than in the book.

\lambda = \frac{v}{f} = \frac{343}{246} = 1.39 m

Easy enough. But what about the change in r? Let r1 be the distance traveled by the sound that goes to the left and r2 be the sound that goes to the right, thus we have:

r_1 = 2(47 - 14) = 66 m
r_2 = 2(14) = 28 m
\Delta r = r_1 - r2 = 38 = \frac{\phi}{2 \pi} \lambda
so \frac{38 \cdot 2 \cdot \pi}{1.39} = \phi

Which is 171.77 radians maybe? But this is way off the answer in the back of the book, 91.3 degrees, because 171.77 * 180 / pi = 9841.7 degrees modulo 360 = 121 degrees??

??
 
Physics news on Phys.org
lizzyb said:
A tuning fork generates sound waves with a frequency of 246 Hz. The waves travel in opposite directions along a hallway, are reflected by end walls, and return. The hallway is 47.0 m long, and the tuning fork is located 14.0 m from one end. What is the phase difference between the reflected waves when they meet at the tuning fork? The speed of sound in air is 343 m/s.

We have the equation: \Delta r = \frac{\phi}{2 \pi} \lambda so it seems that all we need to do is determine phi since we can easily determine delta r and lambda. But the answer that I come up with is different than in the book.

\lambda = \frac{v}{f} = \frac{343}{246} = 1.39 m

Easy enough. But what about the change in r? Let r1 be the distance traveled by the sound that goes to the left and r2 be the sound that goes to the right, thus we have:

r_1 = 2(47 - 14) = 66 m
r_2 = 2(14) = 28 m
\Delta r = r_1 - r2 = 38 = \frac{\phi}{2 \pi} \lambda
so \frac{38 \cdot 2 \cdot \pi}{1.39} = \phi

Which is 171.77 radians maybe? But this is way off the answer in the back of the book, 91.3 degrees, because 171.77 * 180 / pi = 9841.7 degrees modulo 360 = 121 degrees??

??
The phase difference is the path difference minus the number of whole wavelengths in the path difference.

The number of wavelengths in 38.0 m is 38.0/(343/246) = 27.254. The number of whole wavelengths is 27 so the phase difference is .254 of a wavelength or 360 x .254 = 91.3 degrees. To the correct significant figures, the phase difference is really .3 of a wavelength or 108 degrees.

AM
 
wow - my error was in rounding off the results. thanks so much. As a recap, I can come up with the correct answer with:

\phi = \frac{\Delta r \cdot 2 \cdot \pi}{\lambda} = \frac{\Delta r \cdot 2 \cdot \pi}{v/f} = \frac{\Delta r \cdot 2 \cdot \pi \cdot f}{v} = \frac{(66 - 28) \cdot 2 \pi \cdot 246 }{343} radians \cdot \frac{180 degrees}{\pi radians}

anway, i came up with 9811.31195335 modulo 360 = 91.3 degrees!
 
I don't understand the "modulo" conversion, its not working for me, can you explain it please?
 
conejoperez28 said:
I don't understand the "modulo" conversion, its not working for me, can you explain it please?

The sine and cosine functions are periodic with a period of 360°. A "phase difference" of n*360 + θ is the same as a phase difference of θ for all integer values of n. When you have some big angle and subtract n*360 from it, you are finding the angle "modulo 360°"
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
7K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
5K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
36K
Replies
1
Views
6K
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K