What is the pressure at the bottom of the flask?

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The problem involves calculating the pressure at the bottom of a flask containing three immiscible liquids with different densities and depths. The context is fluid mechanics, specifically relating to pressure changes due to varying fluid columns.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of Pascal's principle and the contributions of each liquid to the overall pressure. There are attempts to clarify how to correctly sum the pressures from the different liquid layers.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the correct formulation for calculating pressure at the bottom, with mixed interpretations about the contributions of the liquid layers. There is ongoing clarification regarding the signs in the equations and the definition of pressure in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the relationship between the pressure at the bottom and the atmospheric pressure, as well as how to properly account for the contributions of each liquid to the total pressure.

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Homework Statement



Liquid 1 (density ρ_{1} = 8290 kg/m³) is poured into a large open cylinder to a depth of d_{1} = 85.9 cm. Liquid 2 (density ρ_{2} = 5695 kg/m³) is then poured on top of liquid 1 to a depth of d_{2} = 70.3 cm. Then liquid 3 (density ρ_{3} = 2933 kg/m³) is poured on top of liquid 2 to a depth of d_{3} = 66.9 cm. Assume the liquids are immiscible (do not mix at all), so the total depth of the fluid is d_{TOT} = 223.1 cm. Find P, the pressure at the bottom of the flask.

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I would assume that it's this formula, the Pascal's principle...

\Delta P = \rho g(\Delta h)

The Attempt at a Solution



I combined all the values altogether to obtain the pressure, but it's incorrect. I've heard that someone said that the pressure at the bottom will be lower after adding the liquids on top. I am not sure how to show this. I can only think that Pascal's principle is the only formula to start.
 
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I am totally incorrect for this equation...

P = \rho_{3}d_{3}g - (\rho_{2}d_{2}g - \rho_{1}d_{1}g)
 
NasuSama said:
I am totally incorrect for this equation...

P = \rho_{3}d_{3}g - (\rho_{2}d_{2}g - \rho_{1}d_{1}g)

Hi again. The contributions of the three fluids add together to give the pressure at the bottom. All the minus signs in your equation should be plus signs.
 
Sorry for triple post. I do not know how this problem is approached. I have heard that someone said that the pressure at the bottom must be lower after the liquids are added to the top, but I still don't get how to show this by formula.
 
Chestermiller said:
Hi again. The contributions of the three fluids add together to give the pressure at the bottom. All the minus signs in your equation should be plus signs.

Then, I have...

Total = \rho_{1}d_{1}g + \rho_{2}d_{2}g + \rho_{3}d_{3}g

However, that is not the pressure at the bottom. It's the pressure of the whole liquids, but not at the bottom.
 
NasuSama said:
Then, I have...

Total = \rho_{1}d_{1}g + \rho_{2}d_{2}g + \rho_{3}d_{3}g

However, that is not the pressure at the bottom. It's the pressure of the whole liquids, but not at the bottom.

Yes, it is the pressure at the bottom, over and above atmospheric pressure. What make you think it is not? How do you define the term "the pressure of the whole liquids?"
 
Chestermiller said:
Yes, it is the pressure at the bottom, over and above atmospheric pressure. What make you think it is not? How do you define the term "the pressure of the whole liquids?"

I don't know.

Here is the answer I have. It's 1.28 * 10^(5) Pa, which is the previous answer I have. Did you get that answer with your calculator?
 
NasuSama said:
I don't know.

Here is the answer I have. It's 1.28 * 10^(5) Pa, which is the previous answer I have. Did you get that answer with your calculator?

Yes. This is the same answer I get for the gage pressure (the pressure over and above atmospheric pressure ) on the bottom. The atmospheric pressure is 1 * 10 ^5 Pa. So the total absolute pressure on the bottom is 2.28 * 10^5 Pa.
 

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