What is the probability of getting a score between 2 and 4?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving a discrete random variable X with a specified probability mass function (PMF). Participants are tasked with finding probabilities related to specific intervals of the random variable.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of probabilities for the intervals P[2 < X < 4] and P[X ≤ 3]. There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the PMF and the definitions of cumulative distribution functions (CDF) versus PMFs. Some participants question the validity of adding certain probabilities based on the definitions of the inequalities involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and corrections regarding the interpretation of the PMF and the calculations involved. There is recognition of the need to differentiate between cumulative and non-cumulative probabilities, and some participants express uncertainty about how to proceed given their current understanding of the material.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that their class has not yet covered cumulative distribution functions, focusing instead on PMFs and specific types of random variables. There is also mention of confusion regarding the absence of values in the distribution that fall strictly between the specified bounds.

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Homework Statement



Let X be a random variable with PMF

x 0 2 4 5
p(x) 0.15 0.30 0.30 0.25

(The x values above are supposed to match up with the p(x) values)

Find P[2 < X < 4], P[X [tex]\leq[/tex] 3]

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, I kinda have an idea on how to do this, but I just want to make sure. To find P[2 < X < 4], I think it's basically just .3 + .3, since the PMF must equal 1 then you'd basically just have to add both p(x) values together. For P[X [tex]\leq[/tex] 3], I think it's .15 + .2 (since both are less than 3). Are these answers correct, or am I completely wrong? (I have a bad feeling I am...)
 
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For the first one neither 2 nor 4 satisfy 2<x<4, do they? For the other one do you mean .15+.3? Or are you more confused than I think?
 
What you are trying to find is the cumulative distribution function (cdf) which is defined by:

[tex]P(X \leq x) = \sum_{y \leq x} p(y)[/tex]

To use different numbers... say you want to find [tex]P(X \leq 2)[/tex], it would be

[tex]P(X \leq 2) = p(0) + p(2) =...[/tex]

but [tex]P(X < 2) = p(0) \neq p(0) + p(2) = P(X \leq 2)[/tex].

You're confusing the two symbols (<) less than or greater than and (<=) less than or equal to.

Edit: Also,

To find P[2 < X < 4], I think it's basically just .3 + .3, since the PMF must equal 1 then you'd basically just have to add both p(x) values together.

This is really irrelevant. By definition of a pmf, the sum of all possible p(x_i) = 1. Here you are confusing the symbols.
 
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Dick said:
For the first one neither 2 nor 4 satisfy 2<x<4, do they? For the other one do you mean .15+.3? Or are you more confused than I think?

Yup, I was meant to write .15+.3 for the second one.

konthelion said:
What you are trying to find is the cumulative distribution function (cdf) which is defined by:

[tex]P(X \leq x) = \sum_{y \leq x} p(y)[/tex]

To use different numbers... say you want to find [tex]P(X \leq 2)[/tex], it would be

[tex]P(X \leq 2) = p(0) + p(2) =...[/tex]

but [tex]P(X < 2) = p(0) \neq p(0) + p(2) = P(X \leq 2)[/tex].

Sorry, my class actually hasn't covered cdfs just yet (we've only done pmfs and are learning about binomial and poisson random variables at the moment). Do you know another way to do it with pmfs, or is it irrelevant in this case?
Also, from what I understand, in order to find P[2 < X < 4], you have to find P(3)? (Which is zero in this case?)

Thanks for all the help.
 
Orphen89 said:
Yup, I was meant to write .15+.3 for the second one.



Sorry, my class actually hasn't covered cdfs just yet (we've only done pmfs and are learning about binomial and poisson random variables at the moment). Do you know another way to do it with pmfs, or is it irrelevant in this case?
Also, from what I understand, in order to find P[2 < X < 4], you have to find P(3)? (Which is zero in this case?)

Thanks for all the help.

Right. It's zero. But you don't have to 'find P(3)'. There just aren't any points in your distribution that are strictly between 2 and 4.
 

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