What is the Relationship Between Friction and Mass of an Object on a Slope?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between friction and the mass of an object on a slope, particularly focusing on how changes in mass affect the angle at which the object begins to slide down the slope. The scope includes experimental observations and theoretical considerations regarding frictional forces.

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  • Experimental/applied
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the assumption that increasing the mass of an object would lead to a decrease in the angle of the slope required for the object to slide.
  • Another participant describes their home experiment where increasing the mass of the object results in decreasing angles at which the object starts to slide.
  • A suggestion is made to first analyze the effect of changing mass on a fixed angle slope before varying the slope angle itself.
  • Some participants reference the coefficient of friction, noting that it remains constant over a wide range of loads, implying that doubling the mass also doubles the friction force, which may affect the limiting slope.
  • There is an emphasis on recording actual experimental results rather than expected outcomes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between mass and the angle of the slope. While some suggest that the angle should remain constant regardless of mass, others report experimental results that contradict this, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the assumptions underlying their claims, such as the conditions of the experiment and the definitions of friction and slope. There are also unresolved mathematical considerations regarding the relationship between mass, friction, and slope angle.

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Hi guys. I was just wondering if someone could enlighten me on the relationship between friction and mass of object.

For instance, if i have an object of mass 100g going down a slope… what happens if i increase the mass of object to 200g? will the angle of the slope increase or decrease for the object to move down it?

Im assuming as mass of object increases, angle of slope decreases. Can somebody correct me if I'm wrong?
 
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hi daisy

why would you think the angle of the slope would change ?
 
Well I'm doing an experiment at home. So the point of this experiment is to use different masses of objects and record the angle of the slope at which the object first starts to slide down. So I've been increasing my object mass but my angles are decreasing.
 
for ease
work out a change in mass on a fixed angle slope. and once familiar with what is happening there
THEN start changing the slope angle to see what the effect is :smile:

cheers
Dave
 
If you look at this wiki article, you will see the information you need. The Coefficient of friction is constant over a very wide range of loads. That means that, if you double the mass (weight force), the friction force doubles, too, so the limiting slope will be the same.
 
sophiecentaur said:
If you look at this wiki article, you will see the information you need. The Coefficient of friction is constant over a very wide range of loads. That means that, if you double the mass (weight force), the friction force doubles, too, so the limiting slope will be the same.

If you are doing an experiment, you should write down the results you actually get, not the results you think you should get.
 

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