What is the Relationship Between Perimeter and Area in an Infinite Staircase?

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The discussion explores the relationship between perimeter and area in the context of an infinite staircase, questioning whether it is possible to maintain the same perimeter while infinitely reducing the area. It highlights that while infinitely creating corners can approximate a perfect curve, the resulting shape remains jagged, leading to a discrepancy between the values of 4 and pi. The conversation references the behavior of regular polygons, noting that their perimeter remains constant at 4 while their area approaches that of a circle. Additionally, it compares the staircase problem to the convergence of stairsteps to a straight line, emphasizing that the total length remains 2, not the straight line's length of √2. The conclusion drawn is that the stairsteps do indeed converge uniformly to the line.
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Alright, so I was just browsing 4Chan and I came across this post.

[PLAIN]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5374/1291537737867.jpg

I realize infinitely making corners out of corners may result in an approximation of a perfect curve, however, it will always be jagged and thus result in the difference between 4 and pi.

My question is, can you maintain the same perimeter while infinitely reducing the area? Cause that's what it appears to be doing in the picture.
 
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macbowes said:
I realize infinitely making corners out of corners may result in an approximation of a perfect curve, however, it will always be jagged and thus result in the difference between 4 and pi.

Approximations by regular polygons will also always be jagged, but the limit is pi.
 
The perimeter will polygon will always equal 4. The area, of the polygon, however, will come infinitely close to the area of the circle. At least that's my understanding.
 
That's a variation on the problem where you take more and more "stairsteps" from (0, 0) to (1, 1) getting a figure very close to the straight line from (0, 0) to (1, 1) but showing that the total length is always "2", not the length of the straight line, [math]\sqrt{2}[/math]. Essentially, the problem is that the stairsteps do not converge uniformly to the line.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Essentially, the problem is that the stairsteps do not converge uniformly to the line.

They do converge uniformly to the line.
 
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