What is the relationship between range and initial height in projectile motion?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the range and initial height in projectile motion, specifically exploring how changes in initial height affect the horizontal range of a projectile. The scope includes theoretical considerations and kinematic equations related to projectile motion.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant questions how the range changes if the initial height is doubled, specifically comparing a launch from 2 ft to 4 ft.
  • Another participant notes that the answer is not unique and depends on various factors, such as whether the initial velocity or launch angle is altered along with the height.
  • A participant clarifies that the only variable changing is the height above the ground while keeping other conditions constant.
  • Further, a participant emphasizes the need to understand how initial height affects the range, referencing the relationship between range, time-of-flight, and horizontal velocity.
  • Another participant provides a detailed mathematical approach to express the relationship between range and height, presenting equations that relate initial speed, trajectory angle, height, and flight time, while also discussing conditions for minimum height for a given range.

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Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views and conditions regarding the relationship between initial height and range remain unresolved.

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The discussion highlights the dependence on various assumptions, such as the initial velocity and launch angle, which are not fully specified. The mathematical expressions presented may also involve unresolved steps or conditions.

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Range and Height Kinematics?

What happens to range if the initial height is doubled. Say if something is shot at 2 ft and then its shot at 4 ft high, what happens to range?
 
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That is a good question - not enough information to have a unique answer though. eg - how was the height doubled? Are we thinking that the initial velocity is increased but the angle is the same, that the initial velocity is the same but the angle changes, that the y-component of the initial velocity is increased, or that the launcher is raised, everything else remains the same?
 


a projectile is shot at an angle with a certain initial velocity at a height, say 2 ft above ground. The only thing that changes is the height above the ground
 


OK - so you need to know how initial height affects the range!

Note: ##R=v_xT## - the range is equal to the time-of-flight T times the horizontal velocity. Which of these variables changes with height?
 


If by range you mean the maximum horizontal distance, you have:
- initial speed u
- initial trajectory θ to horizontal
- height above target h
- flight time t
- horizontal range r
Rather than compute the max r for given h, turns out to be a little easier to ask for min h for given r:
r = u cos(θ) t
h = - u sin(θ) t + g t2 / 2
= - r tan(θ) + g r2 sec2(θ)/ 2 u2
dh/dθ = -r sec2(θ) + g r2 tan(θ) sec2(θ)/u2
For min h, dh/dθ = 0
tan(θ) = u2 /(gr)
h = g r2 / 2 u2 - u2 /2g
Looks a little strange, but I think it's right. E.g. if the target is u2 /2g above the launch then h = - u2 /2g and r = 0.
 

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