What is the required force to push a 5.00-kg box up a 30° incline in 4.00s?

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The problem involves determining the constant force required to push a 5.00-kg box up a 30° incline over a distance of 8.00m in a specified time of 4.00s, considering the effects of friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the box along the incline, including gravitational force, normal force, and frictional force. There is an exploration of the relationship between distance, acceleration, and time, leading to the formulation of equations to find the required force.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the calculations related to the forces involved. Some participants have provided guidance on the equations to use, while others are questioning the appropriateness of the friction coefficient applied in the calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of using the correct coefficient of friction and express concerns about the implications of the problem for an upcoming take-home test. There is a sense of urgency in seeking validation for their approaches.

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Homework Statement


A 5.00-kg box sits at rest at the bottom of a ramp that is 8.00m long and that is inclined at 30.0° above the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction is μk = 0.40, and the coefficient of static friction is μs = 0.50. What constant force F, applied parallel to the surface of the ramp, is required to push the box to the top of the ramp in a time of 4.00s?g = 9.8 in my class

Homework Equations

Fg = m(g)
FN = m(g)(cos(θ))
Ffk = μk(FN)
FNET = m(a)

The Attempt at a Solution



Fg = 5(9.8) = 49N

FN = 5(9.8)(cos(30)) = 42.44N

Ffk = .40(42.44) = 16.98N

This is where I get stuck. I am able to find the minimum amount required to get it to start and keep moving but not what the question is asking. My textbook does not explain this topic very well so I was getting frustrated.
 
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Hi Zarrey!

You know the forces that act on the block along(parallel) the incline. These are constant, and so is your force F. Now the sum of these forces need to produce an acceleration a, such that the distance traveled in t seconds is the length L of the incline. As an equation, you can write that as

[tex]L = \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]
 
so then

L = .5a(t2)
8 = .5a(42)
8 = .5a(16)
8 = 8a
1m/s = a

Fll = 49(sin(30))
Fll = 24.5N

FNET = Fp - Fll - Ffk

And then Newtons law:

Fp - Fll - Ffk = m(a)
Fp - 24.5 - 21.22 = 5(1)
Fp = 50.72N

is this correct? (i substituted Fp as the push force since that what we use in class)
 
Bump.

Sorry for this bump but this question is kind of important as it is on a take home test. I'm kind of freaking out because I am already turning it in late. A validation response would be much appreciated. And thanks for the help in advance.
 
Zarrey said:
so then

L = .5a(t2)
8 = .5a(42)
8 = .5a(16)
8 = 8a
1m/s = a

Fll = 49(sin(30))
Fll = 24.5N

FNET = Fp - Fll - Ffk

And then Newtons law:

Fp - Fll - Ffk = m(a)
Fp - 24.5 - 21.22 = 5(1)
Fp = 50.72N

is this correct? (i substituted Fp as the push force since that what we use in class)
Looks good except that you used static friction instead of kinetic friction.
 
Zarrey said:
so then

L = .5a(t2)
8 = .5a(42)
8 = .5a(16)
8 = 8a
1m/s = a

Fll = 49(sin(30))
Fll = 24.5N

FNET = Fp - Fll - Ffk

And then Newtons law:

Fp - Fll - Ffk = m(a)
Fp - 24.5 - 21.22 = 5(1)
Fp = 50.72N

is this correct? (i substituted Fp as the push force since that what we use in class)

Hi, sorry for the late reply.

The bolded term seems wrong. You need to use the kinetic friction coefficient.
 
thanks a lot, i appreciate everyone's help in getting me to understand this frustrating topic :).
 

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