What Is the Rod's Slope in Frame S'?

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The discussion revolves around determining the slope of a rod in a moving frame S' relative to a stationary frame S, where the rod has a slope m and moves at speed u. The user attempts to derive the slope in S' using the Lorentz transformation, arriving at a formula involving gamma(u'). However, the answer key presents a different formula, leading to confusion about the relationship between the two frames. Participants clarify that S is at rest relative to S', and the importance of relative motion in special relativity is emphasized. The conversation concludes with a consensus that the user’s initial approach is correct, but the answer key's derivation remains unclear.
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A rod. having slope m relative to the x-axis of S, moves in the x direction at speed u. what is the rod's slope in the usual second frame S'? (S is at rest realtive to S' which moves along the x direction with velocity v).
well obviously the horizontal length of the rod is contracted or lengthened, depends on your frame:
i think that if L is the length of the rod, and u'=\frac{u-v}{1-\frac{uv}{c^2}} then we have: L'_x=Lcos(theta)/gamma(u')
and the slope in S' is: m'=m*gamma(u') cause the vertical portion of the rod doesn't get change.

the problem is that in the answer key we have:
m'=m*gamma(v)*(1-uv/c^2)
but i don't get this, even with some algebraic manipulations, so i guess I am wrong here, can someone help here?

thanks in advance.
 
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S is at rest realtive to S' which moves along the x direction with velocity v

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S is at rest relative to S', where S' moves with horizontal velcoity compared to S, what's not understood here?
 
loop quantum gravity said:
S is at rest relative to S', where S' moves with horizontal velcoity compared to S, what's not understood here?
(1) S is at rest relative to S'
(2) S' moves with a horizontal velocity compared to S

Sounds contradictory to me! You might want to reword your problem statement.
 
what's wrong here?
one frame is stationary the other one moves with constant speed, what's wrong with this?
 
In SR, you cannot say that something is at rest in an absolute sense. It has to at rest with respect to/relative to something. So if S' is at rest with respect to S, then the relative velocity between the two is 0. If, on the other hand, S' has a velocity of v as measured by S, then S' measures the velocity of S to be -v(assuming standard configuration).
 
yes i see your point, i meant that S' has velocity v as measured by S.
 
loop quantum gravity said:
yes i see your point, i meant that S' has velocity v as measured by S.
Now that we have taken care of that, back to the problem...

I don't really see how to manipulate your answer, which is correct, to the form given in the book, and I also don't see how it is simpler than just having gamma(u').
 
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