What is the significance of the 10^-8 multiplier in Faraday's Law for coils?

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The discussion focuses on the significance of the 10^-8 multiplier in Faraday's Law as it applies to coils, particularly in the context of unit conversions between different measurement systems, such as the cgs and MKS systems. Participants explore the implications of this multiplier on the calculations of induced voltage and magnetic flux.

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  • One participant presents Faraday's Law for coils and questions the origin of the 10^-8 multiplier, suggesting it relates to unit systems.
  • Another participant provides conversion factors between the cgs and MKS systems, noting that magnetic flux density and EMF have specific relationships in these systems.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the units of magnetic flux and its derivative, questioning how they convert to maxwells per second in the context of the equation.
  • Further clarification is provided on the definitions of maxwell and gauss in the cgs system, along with their equivalents in the MKS system.
  • One participant seeks to understand how to equate the units on both sides of the equation presented in an earlier post, indicating a need for more detail.

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Participants express confusion and seek clarification on the unit conversions and the significance of the multiplier, indicating that there is no consensus on the understanding of these concepts.

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Participants reference specific units and their relationships, but there are unresolved questions regarding the conversion process and how the units align in the context of Faraday's Law.

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For a coil,

[tex]e=N\frac {d\Phi}{dt}[/tex]

Where [itex]e\;[/itex] is the instantaneous voltage driving the coil and [itex]\Phi\;[/itex] is the flux generated through the coil with N turns.

For a coil

[tex]\oint \vec B \cdot d\vec l =\mu N I \Rightarrow B=\mu N I \Rightarrow \Phi = BS=\mu N I S[/tex]

In the book Handbook of Transformer Design & Application by Flanagan, page 1.7, it gives

[tex]e=N\frac{d\Phi}{dt}\times 10^{-8}[/tex]

It said the multiplier factor depends on the system units. I have no idea how that [itex]10^{-8}\;[/itex] comes from. Please help.

Thanks

Alan
 
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I have never seen Flanagan, is it an old book?

The conversion factors between the old cgs system and MKS are

Magnetic flux density : 1 volt-second/metre2 = 104 emu (gauss)

Magnetic flux : 1 volt-second (weber) = 10 8 emu (maxwell)

Inductance : 1 henry = 109 emu

EMF : 1 volt = 108 emu
 
Thanks for the reply. I still have question:

[tex]\Phi = BS=\mu N I S[/tex]

It [itex]\Phi\;[/itex] is in H/m X N X coulomb/sec X m^2. [itex]\frac{d\Phi}{dt}\;[/itex] is in (H/m X N X coulomb/sec X m^2)/sec

How does this become maxwell/sec in the equation? I am confused with the units. Please help.
 
In the old cgs system one line of induction was called a maxwell, and magnetic induction expressed in maxwells per sq cm.

One maxwell per sq cm was called a gauss.

In MKS

1 weber per sq m = 104 gauss.

since 1 meter squared = 104 cm2 it follows that

1 weber = 108 maxwells
 
Studiot said:
In the old cgs system one line of induction was called a maxwell, and magnetic induction expressed in maxwells per sq cm.

One maxwell per sq cm was called a gauss.

In MKS

1 weber per sq m = 104 gauss.

since 1 meter squared = 104 cm2 it follows that

1 weber = 108 maxwells

Yes, I actually studied they since you replied. My question is how to make the two side to be equal units as I posted in #3

Thanks
 
I am only guessing about your reference.

You really need to supply more detail please.
 
Studiot said:
I am only guessing about your reference.

You really need to supply more detail please.

I am referring to this

It Φ is in H/m X N X coulomb/sec X m^2. dΦdt is in (H/m X N X coulomb/sec X m^2)/sec

On the left side, μ is in H/m, I is in A/sec, area is m^2. Then it is per second.
On the right side, it is Web per second.

I am still missing something.
 

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