What is the solution for a string under tension with given boundary conditions?

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The problem involves a string of mass M and length L that is attached to walls at both ends and is under tension T. The string is initially held in a specific shape and then released. The task is to find the displacement y(x, t) of the string over time, expressed as an infinite series.

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  • The original poster attempts to incorporate boundary conditions into their equations but expresses confusion about how to proceed. Some participants suggest using Fourier series to solve the problem, while others question the necessity of this approach given their current curriculum.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Fourier series, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to apply given the participants' varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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There is mention of the initial shape of the string being potentially problematic for a continuous string, and participants are navigating the constraints of their current coursework and understanding of relevant mathematical tools.

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Homework Statement



A string of mass M and length L is attached to walls at either end, and is
under tension T. The string is held at rest in the following shape: y=B for L/2<x<3L/4
and y= 0 for the rest of the string. The string is released
at t =0.(a) Find y(x, t). You may express your answer as an infinite
series, so long as you have defined all the symbols in your series

Homework Equations


y(x)=Bsinkx
k=npi/L L =length of string n=mode no
Y(x,y)=[itex]\Sigma[/itex]Bsin(kx)cos(wt) (sm over all n)

The Attempt at a Solution


i don't understand how to incorporate the boundary conditions in given equation...i have been trying and all i come up with are two equations sin(3npix/2L) for 3l/4 and sin(kx) for L/2 ...Dont know how to go any further
 
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maylie said:

Homework Statement



A string of mass M and length L is attached to walls at either end, and is
under tension T. The string is held at rest in the following shape: y=B for L/2<x<3L/4
and y= 0 for the rest of the string. The string is released
at t =0.(a) Find y(x, t). You may express your answer as an infinite
series, so long as you have defined all the symbols in your series

Homework Equations


y(x)=Bsinkx
k=npi/L L =length of string n=mode no
Y(x,y)=[itex]\Sigma[/itex]Bsin(kx)cos(wt) (sm over all n)

You probably mean$$
y(x,t)=\sum_{n=1}^\infty B_n \sin(\frac{n\pi} L x)\cos(\omega_n t)$$If you put ##t=0## and call your initial position of the string ##f(x)## you have$$
y(x,0)=f(x) = \sum_{n=1}^\infty B_n \sin(\frac{n\pi} L x)$$This is a Fourier series problem. Use that theory to figure out ##B_n##. We will just gloss over the fact that a continuous string can't be put in that initial shape.
 
are you sure we have to use Fourier analysis because we arent taught this yet we had to use the above equations !
 
Yes, I am sure. How did you get that solution in the first place? Did you use separation of variables? Fourier Series is standard material to go with that in problems like this. Maybe your teacher is trying to give you a "preview of coming attractions".
 
no i used brute force . got it! thank you so much :)
 
You're welcome. But you haven't "got it" until you know the formulas for ##B_n## and ##\omega_n##.
 

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