What is the solution for the troublesome integral?

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The discussion revolves around computing the integral $$ C \int_{-a}^{0} \sqrt {\frac{-2x}{a+x}}\mathrm{d}x$$. Participants explore various methods for solving this integral, including substitutions and references to external resources for its physical meaning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in computing the integral and references its physical meaning from an external source.
  • Another participant suggests a trigonometric substitution, providing the transformation and limits for the variable change.
  • A later reply indicates that using Wolfram yielded an indefinite integral, but raises concerns about divergence when evaluating the definite integral.
  • Another participant challenges the correctness of the substitution and encourages showing steps, suggesting that the integrand is simpler than initially thought.
  • A final post indicates that the participant found a solution after recognizing a simplification related to the argument of the integral.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the method for solving the integral, with some expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their approaches and others providing differing suggestions.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing steps in the substitution process, and some participants express uncertainty about the validity of their results, particularly regarding divergence in the definite integral.

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All,

I would like to compute the integral $$ C \int_{-a}^{0} \sqrt {\frac{-2x}{a+x}}\mathrm{d}x$$.
If anyone is interested in its physical meaning they can check section 9.4.3 at http://solidmechanics.org/text/Chapter9_4/Chapter9_4.htm#Sect9_4_1.

I am struggling to make any progress, yet the result is presented without computations on a number of textbook, hinting at the fact it should be relatively simple to reproduce...
The result is, if the cionstant C is taken as $$C = \frac{K^{2} 2 (1-\nu^{2})}{E \sqrt{2} \pi}$$, $$ a \frac{1-\nu^{2}}{E} K^{2}$$.

Thank you ever so much
 
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Take ##x = -a\sin^2\theta## with ##\theta## going from ##\pi/2## to ##\pi##. Then ##-2x = 2a\sin^2\theta##, ##a+x = a\cos^2\theta##, and ##dx = -2a\sin\theta\cos\theta d\theta##. Plug it all in and you should be able to do the resulting integral.

(Hint: aside from recognizing the form of the integral, knowing that there are factors of ##\pi## in the final answer is usually a tip-off that you should use trigonometric substitution).
 
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LastOneStanding,
thank you ever so much.
So, after the change of variable you suggested I still would not know where to start to look for an analytical solution, but while I work on it I used Wolfram, which yields the indefinite integral
$$a(cos(2x)-4log(cos(x)))$$
Now, $$cos(\frac{1}{2}\pi )$$ is zero, so one term will diverge upon trying to compute the definite integral between the limits of integration $$\pi$$ and $$\frac{\pi}{2}$$, I am not sure I am right here...
Thanks
 
Show your steps. You're making a mistake with the substitution because that is not the correct antiderivative. Go slowly and don't rely on WolframAlpha. The integrand you get from this substitution is very simple and, if you're really stuck on how to do it, can be looked up in any standard table of integrals like this one.
 
I got it, only my laziness prevented me to notice the argument was a squared tangent leading to mssive simplification, after which it was smooth crusing.
Thank you ever so much hope sometime to be able to exchange the favour.
 

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