What is the solution to a differential equation in trigonometric form?

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The discussion focuses on converting a solution to a differential equation in trigonometric form into the format A sin(wt + phi). The amplitude A is calculated as 5, and the phase angle phi is derived using various inverse trigonometric functions, leading to multiple values. It is noted that the frequencies must match for the conversion to be valid, specifically with omega equal to sqrt(2). The correct phase angle is determined to be approximately 3.6052, which corresponds to pi + 0.4636, ensuring it falls within the range of 0 to 2 pi. The discussion emphasizes the importance of accurately calculating and expressing phi for the correct representation of the solution.
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Homework Statement



This is a solutuion to a differential equation I've solved:

-cos(sqrt(2)t) - 2sin(sqrt(s)t)

I've been asked to put it in the form:

Asin(wt + phi)



Homework Equations



A= sqrt(-1^2 + -2^2)

phi = sin^-1phi = \frac{c1}{A}
phi = cos^-1 phi = \frac{c2}{A}
and
phi = tan^-1 phi = \frac{c1}{c2}





The Attempt at a Solution




A = 5

phi = sin^-1phi = \frac{-1}{sqrt(5)}
phi =

phi = cos^-1 phi = \frac{-2}{sqrt(5)}
phi =

and
phi = tan^-1 phi = \frac{-1}{-2}
phi =
 
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Note that if s inside the sine is not equal to 2, then you cannot write it as a single sine at all. So the frequencies have to be the same, and you can just read them off (\omega = \sqrt{2}). Then the amplitude is indeed A = \sqrt{5} (you gave the correct formula, but forgot the root in the later result. Also watch out to write (-1)^2 = (-1) \times (-1) = 1, which is something different than -1^2 = -(1 \times 1) = -1). Then just plug in t = 0 and you get an equation for phi, which you can solve, giving \phi = \sin^{-1}(1/\sqrt{5}) + \pi (if you want a value between 0 and 2 pi).
 
I did not mean to "post" it yet - I meant to hit "preview".

Here are some more details and clean-up and my official question:

A = 5

phi = sin^{-1}phi = \frac{-1}{\sqrt(5)}
phi = -0.4636

phi = cos^{-1} phi = \frac{-2}{\sqrt(5)}
phi = 2.678

and
phi = tan^{-1} phi = \frac{-1}{-2}
phi = 0.4636

Can you help with the phase angle? (3 different answers - none of which are correct)

The book has 3.6052 which I see is pi + 0.4636.

Thanks
-Sparky
 
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So you have found A and omega, and now you want
A \sin(\omega t + \phi) = - \cos(\sqrt{2} t) - 2 \sin(\sqrt{2} t).
If you look at the point t = 0, you get the equation
A \sin(\phi) = - 1
from which you can solve \phi. So indeed, you get the equation
\phi = \operatorname{arcsin}(- 1 / \sqrt{5})
which you can take to be either -0.4636, or 0.4636 + pi. By graphing both you see that the latter is correct, and it is also neater, to express phi between 0 and 2 pi.
 
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