What is the solution to the integral (1-y^2/y^2)^2 dy from a calc 2 exam?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral of the expression \(\int\left(\frac{1 - y^{2}}{y^{2}}\right)^{2} dy\), which is part of a calculus 2 exam. Participants are reviewing the algebra involved in simplifying and integrating the expression.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • One participant attempts to simplify the integral by breaking it into fractions and squaring the resulting expression. Another participant questions the accuracy of the coefficient in the final answer, leading to a discussion about the integration process and simplification steps.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's attempts, providing feedback on algebraic simplifications and integration steps. There is recognition of a mistake in the calculation, and some participants suggest alternative approaches to the problem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the use of certain resources or methods. The discussion reflects a focus on understanding the algebraic manipulation involved in the integration process.

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Homework Statement



From an exam in calc 2 we are reviewing simple integrals. This one was annoying because it actually contained algebra.. regardless.

\int(\frac{1 - y^{2}}{y^{2}})^{2} dy

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The Attempt at a Solution



First I broke it into two fractions, and turned the second into 1 as it is y squared over y squared.

\int(\frac{1}{y^{2}} - 1)^{2} dy

Then squared the polynomial of sorts.. to get


\int y^{-4} - y^{-2} - y^{-2} + 1 dy

Leading me to a final answer of

- \frac{y^{-3}}{3} + 2y^{-1} + y + C

Look okay? A bit rusty in algebra..
 
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Looks fine to me!
 
1MileCrash said:

Homework Statement



From an exam in calc 2 we are reviewing simple integrals. This one was annoying because it actually contained algebra.. regardless.

\int(\frac{1 - y^{2}}{y^{2}})^{2} dy

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



First I broke it into two fractions, and turned the second into 1 as it is y squared over y squared.

\int(\frac{1}{y^{2}} - 1)^{2} dy

Then squared the polynomial of sorts.. to get


\int y^{-4} - y^{-2} - y^{-2} + 1 dy

Leading me to a final answer of

- \frac{y^{-3}}{3} + 2y^{-1} + y + C
There's a mistake in your 2nd term. The coefficient of the y-1 term should be 1, not 2.

Also, a slightly different approach is to square the numerator and denominator of your fraction instead of doing the division first. This leads to the same result, though, so can't really be considered a better approach.
1MileCrash said:
Look okay? A bit rusty in algebra..
 
Mark44 said:
There's a mistake in your 2nd term. The coefficient of the y-1 term should be 1, not 2.

How so? After integration of -y^-2 I get +y^-1, and there are two instances of -y^-2. All I did was add them together for 2y^-1.
 
Mark44 said:
There's a mistake in your 2nd term. The coefficient of the y-1 term should be 1, not 2.

His integral shows that he is adding y^-2 to y^-2; he just fails to simplify before he integrates. I think that's where his 2 comes from.
 
Sorry, I totally missed that there was another y-1 term. My mistake...
 
No problem, thanks guys!
 

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