What is the Tangential Hall Effect in Ferromagnetic Materials?

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The discussion revolves around the Tangential Hall Effect in ferromagnetic materials, specifically focusing on the behavior of the tangential magnetic field component (Ht) in the presence of a longitudinal magnetic field. Participants explore the conditions under which the tangential components of the magnetic field are equal at the boundary of the material and the implications of surface currents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the tangential magnetic field component Ht1 in air is equal to Ht2 in the ferromagnetic material, seeking clarification on the mathematical law that supports this.
  • Another participant notes that if the magnetic field H is static and there are no surface currents at the boundary, then Ht1 equals Ht2, but acknowledges that the situation becomes more complex if H is oscillating.
  • A different participant emphasizes that for most real materials, the tangential magnetic field is continuous, but introduces the idea that surface currents could affect the difference in tangential components.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of surface currents on the equality of Ht1 and Ht2, with one participant suggesting that if surface currents are present, then Ht1 may not equal Ht2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the continuity of the tangential magnetic field under static conditions, but there is disagreement regarding the impact of surface currents and oscillating fields on this equality.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the magnetic fields and the presence or absence of surface currents, which may not be fully resolved. The mathematical relationships and boundary conditions are referenced but not detailed.

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Hi everybody.. I have a question on tagential magnetic field.
I have a ferromagnetic material in longitudinal magnetic field and i necessary to know the component tangential H (magnetizing force) of this field by probe hall effect in this material near at your inside surfice. If the probe hall value of Ht1 in air is correct to say Ht1 = Ht2 ? And if true what mathematical law is applied?
Tanks and best regards
 

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IF the H (and B) field is along z, and there is no surface current J at the boundary (in x-z plane or y-z plane) , then curl H = 0, so dHz/dx = -dHz/dy = 0.
In your picture, Bz inside ferrite = u Bz outside ferrite, where u = relative permeability..
 
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If H is a static field, then H tangential is continuous, so you are right to say Ht1=Ht2.
If H is oscillating in time, it is more complicated.
 
Tanks.. Exuse me if i do not draw the cartesian axial. Hence Ht1 = Ht2 along x-axsis and y-axsis.
If instead surface current J because the ferromagetic material is trought by current is not true Ht1 = Ht2 but I can say che H1 about Ht2?
tanks
 
Yay, boundary conditions!

Take a look starting at page 57: http://www.amanogawa.com/archive/docs/EM5.pdf

Basically, for almost any real material the tangential magnetic field is continuous. If you have surface currents, then the difference in the tangential components will be related to the surface current density.
 
Tanks for your replay... and exuse me if i do not write a english correct...
Best regard
 

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