What is the tension in a rope for a moving box in Newton's Second Law?

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The discussion revolves around determining the tension in a rope supporting a moving box, specifically in the context of Newton's Second Law. The problem includes scenarios where the box moves at a constant speed and accelerates upward.

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  • The original poster seeks guidance on how to approach the problem, expressing uncertainty about the application of Newton's Second Law. Participants discuss the derivation of the tension formula and the forces acting on the box, including weight and tension.

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Participants have engaged in a back-and-forth regarding the correctness of the derived equations and the assumptions made. Some have confirmed the calculations, while others have prompted further exploration of the underlying principles and derivations.

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The original poster mentions being absent during a prior discussion on the topic, indicating a potential gap in foundational understanding. There is also a focus on ensuring clarity in the derivation of equations related to forces acting on the box.

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Greetings everyone.
This is my first post and I'm currently enrolled in a general physics I class. We are studying Newtons Second at the moment.

Homework Statement


A 50kg box hangs from a rope. What is the tension in the rope if:
a- The box moves up a steady 5.0 m/s
b- The box has vy= 5.0 m/s and is speeding up at 5.0 m/s^2



Homework Equations


a->= F->net/m
(Fnet)x=max
(Fnet)y=may


The Attempt at a Solution


I was out last Friday when this topic was discussed. The above question is one of the few review/summary questions available for extra practice. I don't want to fall behind so I'm just want to catch up for class tomorrow.

Any hints or ideas as to where to start would be much appreciated!

Thanks
 
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Alright,
Could you tell me if I am heading in the right direction here?

B)
m=50kg
v=5.0m/s
a=0m/s^2

f=ma=m(g+x)
f=50kg(9.8m/s^2+0)
tension=490N

C)
f=ma=m(g+x)
f=50kg(9.8+5.0)
tension=740N
 
those answers are right.

Hm...just curious did you derive f=m(g+x) from F=ma? or was that given to you?
 
It wasn't given to me. I assumed it... is it still correct?
 
yes, but you should know how to derive it:

since the block is hanging from a rope you know all the forces acting on it, weight and tension of the string.

If you can't see it you can draw a Free Body Diagram, so Tension is pointing upward. weight is pointing down.

using Newton's second law for the y component and using the up direction as positive you will get:

T-mg=ma
T=m(g+a)

because there's only those 2 forces acting on the block, if there were more like multiple strings you'd just use Newton's 2nd law and add up all the forces keeing in mind the +/- direction that you choose.
 
Thank you for your help.
 

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