Newton's Second law: Tension on Cable

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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's Second Law to determine the tension in a cable supporting a 5.0 kg watermelon being accelerated upwards at 2.0 m/s². Participants are exploring the relationship between net force, tension, and gravitational force.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants question the initial calculation of tension, emphasizing the need to consider the net force as the sum of all forces acting on the watermelon, including gravitational force. There is a discussion on how to correctly express and solve for tension in the context of Newton's Second Law.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply Newton's Second Law to find the tension in the cable. Some participants have provided guidance on considering all forces involved, while others are working through the implications of their calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the implications of their assumptions regarding forces acting on the watermelon, particularly the role of gravitational force in the context of the problem.

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Hey guys is my solution correct for the question below?

1. Homework Statement

Consider a 5.0 kg watermelon that is being accelerated at 2.0 m/s2 [up] by a cable. Find the tension in the cable.

Homework Equations


Fcable = m.a

The Attempt at a Solution


Fcable = m.a
= 5.0 kg(2.0)
= 10N
 
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Your solution is incorrect. Newton's second law says Fnet = ma. Fnet is the sum of all the forces acting on the watermelon, not just the force from the cable.
 
kuruman said:
Your solution is incorrect. Newton's second law says Fnet = ma. Fnet is the sum of all the forces acting on the watermelon, not just the force from the cable.
Ok I am confused now. I thought Fnet = m.a
 
Or in this situation should it be Fcable +Fgravity
 
aatari said:
Or in this situation should it be Fcable +Fgravity
Yes, it should be as you say. Can you finish the problem now?
 
kuruman said:
Yes, it should be as you say. Can you finish the problem now?
Fcable = 10 N
Fgravity = -49N

Fcable + Fgravity = 10N - 49N
= 39 N [down]

Is this correst?
 
How do you figure Fcable = 10 N? It seems that you multiplied the acceleration by the mass and called that Fcable. We agreed that mass times acceleration is the net force. Write an expression for the net force as the sum of all the forces, set it equal to mass times acceleration and solve for Fcable.
 
kuruman said:
How do you figure Fcable = 10 N? It seems that you multiplied the acceleration by the mass and called that Fcable. We agreed that mass times acceleration is the net force. Write an expression for the net force as the sum of all the forces, set it equal to mass times acceleration and solve for Fcable.
I think I get it now.

So Fnet = Fcable + Fgravity
10N = Fcable - 49N
10N + 49N = Fcable
Fcable = 59N
 
Yes, you got it. :smile:
 
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kuruman said:
Yes, you got it. :smile:
Thanks for your help.
 

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